Can someone PLEASE clear things up for me!

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  • Antlers09

    Member
    Aug 6, 2013
    60
    MD
    I just got an email today about my DC status, she is up to Aug 12.
     

    TurkeyTrack

    Member
    Nov 17, 2012
    30
    After October 1st, you can pick up all the banned items at one time (as soon as they are approved), without waiting 30 days for each firearm. Because after October 1st, they are no longer a regulated firearm and the one gun a month law does not apply to these items. This is the only techincal twist to the new law that is in your favor. But, you will have a hard time convincing a dealer of this logic. Regardless, you should apply for your collector status immediately.
     

    madchestermonkey

    Pond straddler
    Oct 10, 2012
    1,494
    Lowcountry SC
    There is also the round count on the mags to consider. If you are just going to wait this out until you can collect ad after you have your HQL make sure you pick up your mags prior to Oct 1st.

    Good luck!
     

    huesmann

    n00b
    Mar 23, 2012
    1,927
    Silver Spring, MD
    Regarding the assault weapons, contact the sellers and tell them that you want something in writing, at least a receipt, showing that the firearms are in their possession and that you have put down a deposit for them or you have paid for them. If there is a Form 77r in place or a purchase order in place for an assault weapon before October 1, 2013, the purchaser can continue to possess the assault weapon after October 1, 2013 even though the purchaser takes initial possession of the assault weapon after October 1, 2013. Thing is, there is no sure definition of what a purchase order is.
    This. Except it's pretty clear that he's OK with the long arms because he's already bought them, so it really shouldn't matter what's considered a purchase order--they've already been purchased. If the state intends to allow purchase orders to count beyond 10/1, then actual purchases should be covered similarly.
     

    fabsroman

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 14, 2009
    35,852
    Winfield/Taylorsville in Carroll
    This. Except it's pretty clear that he's OK with the long arms because he's already bought them, so it really shouldn't matter what's considered a purchase order--they've already been purchased. If the state intends to allow purchase orders to count beyond 10/1, then actual purchases should be covered similarly.

    There is some debate as to whether the purchase is actually completed prior to the FFL actually delivering the firearms. As with most goods, a contract to purchase is not complete until payment is made AND the goods are delivered.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    32,884
    It's been a cpl decades , but when I once had a ND expire ( 30 days ) , I had to resubmit . Back when 7day actually meant 2-3wks , it was enough of an agrovation to make sure to not let that happen again.

    The 90days is from the time the 77R is submitted . In the present backlog MSP has unilaterly decided to ignore that part . Prior to the present backlog , the 90 day clock was essentially meaningless , because one way or another everything would have concluded long before.
     

    fabsroman

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 14, 2009
    35,852
    Winfield/Taylorsville in Carroll
    It's been a cpl decades , but when I once had a ND expire ( 30 days ) , I had to resubmit . Back when 7day actually meant 2-3wks , it was enough of an agrovation to make sure to not let that happen again.

    The 90days is from the time the 77R is submitted . In the present backlog MSP has unilaterly decided to ignore that part . Prior to the present backlog , the 90 day clock was essentially meaningless , because one way or another everything would have concluded long before.

    It is definitely 90 days after the ND. Really does not make sense since the NICS check will expire before the Form 77r.

    MD Code Pub. Safety. 5-123 Time for licensee to complete transactions (Maryland Code (2013 Edition))

    (a) Seven-day waiting period. -- A licensee may not sell, rent, or transfer a regulated firearm until after 7 days following the time a firearm application is executed by the firearm applicant, in triplicate, and the original is forwarded by the prospective seller or transferor to the Secretary.

    (b) Completion required in 90 days. -- A licensee shall complete the sale, rental, or transfer of a regulated firearm within 90 days after the firearm application was stamped by the Secretary as not being disapproved.

    (c) Incomplete transactions. --

    (1) If the sale, rental, or transfer of a regulated firearm is not completed within 90 days after the firearm application was stamped by the Secretary as not being disapproved, a licensee shall return the firearm application to the Secretary within 7 days.

    (2) The Secretary shall void a firearm application returned under paragraph (1) of this subsection as an incomplete sale, rental, or transfer.

    (d) Notification of completed transaction. --

    (1) (i) A licensee who sells, rents, or transfers a regulated firearm in compliance with this subtitle shall forward a copy of the written notification of the completed transaction to the Secretary within 7 days after delivery of the regulated firearm.

    (ii) The notification shall contain an identifying description of the regulated firearm, including its caliber, make, model, any manufacturer's serial number, and any other special or peculiar characteristic or marking by which the regulated firearm may be identified.

    (2) The Secretary shall maintain a permanent record of all notifications received of completed sales, rentals, and transfers of regulated firearms in the State.
     

    huesmann

    n00b
    Mar 23, 2012
    1,927
    Silver Spring, MD
    There is some debate as to whether the purchase is actually completed prior to the FFL actually delivering the firearms. As with most goods, a contract to purchase is not complete until payment is made AND the goods are delivered.
    However, a purchase order doesn't necessarily include final receipt of goods.
     

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