IWI issues ACE recall because of possible NFA violation

bbrown · Dec 24, 2015

Per this article, IWI issued the recall without being prompted by the BATFE:

http://bearingarms.com/iwi-issues-a...urce=badaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

DC-W · Dec 24, 2015

Tim says:

Upon close examination of the ACE I have here at the shop, it would seem that the potential issue is the presence of a pin hole that would be used to hold an auto sear on a machine gun. Internally I do not see the necessary cuts in the rail to allow for the installation of machine gun parts into the gun. However, the ATF has long held that the presence of a “3rd pin hole” in an AK type firearm constitutes a full-auto receiver.

We will have to wait until more information is made available before we know the fate of these pistols. Meanwhile, if you have one of these firearms you need to contact your FFL dealer where you purchased it immediately. If the BATF deems these to be machine guns they will mandate their surrender.

DC-W · Dec 24, 2015

Well that was fast:

Bertfish · Dec 24, 2015

In that picture it doesn't even look like a full hole, unless a part of it is hidden. Probably best that they call them back though, never known the ATF to overreach and overreact!!

erwos · Dec 24, 2015

Part of it is indeed hidden. Amazing that they'd release it with a third pin, even if the BATFE had an off-day and somehow said yes to it. Mike Kassnar knows better.

Vile Shadow · Dec 24, 2015

Is that "third pin" even in the right location to be used for full auto parts?

erwos · Dec 24, 2015

Looks like it.

Vile Shadow · Dec 24, 2015

It would be nice if a picture of one of these and a select fire one were published side by side for comparison.

DC-W · Dec 24, 2015

Galil2_soha.vn-18b6c-crop1388681184435p.jpg

killng · Dec 24, 2015

The third pin is in the correct location even tho you can not fit full auto selector kinda stupid... Like the nfa

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Doobie · Dec 24, 2015

The guy in the video says that (and I'm paraphrasing) "You filled out a 4473 form on this, so the ATF knows you have it". It's always been my belief that anytime you purchased a firearm and filled out paper work at a dealer, that the government knows you have it. Anyone that thinks otherwise has too much trust in the Gov't saying otherwise. People are against gun registration, but I say it's been going on for quite sometime. Legally buying ftf is the only way Uncle Gov't doesn't know what you have. Should I loosen my tinfoil now? :tinfoil2:

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Pinecone · Dec 25, 2015

To be accurate, if you bought the gun from a dealer, even before the 4473 came along, the gov can FIND OUT you bought it.

But they do not KNOW, until they go looking.

And they have no way or knowing or proving that you still have it (in most states).

DC-W · Dec 25, 2015

Pinecone said:
To be accurate, if you bought the gun from a dealer, even before the 4473 came along, the gov can FIND OUT you bought it.

But they do not KNOW, until they go looking.

And they have no way or knowing or proving that you still have it (in most states).

Yup.

I'm not sure anyone in MD has them though. They're not on the roster.

clandestine · Dec 25, 2015

Im suprsed anyone would trust these guns with JV mistakes like this.

wilcam47 · Dec 25, 2015

DC-W · Dec 29, 2015

From IWI:
https://www.facebook.com/IWIUS/posts/754081351389054

Galil ACE (GAP39) RECALL
IWI US is conducting a recall of all Galil ACE (GAP39) pistols that have a receiver with a 3-pin (3-hole) fire control group construction. While these pistols cannot fire automatically, BATF&E has historically held that AK type receivers with 3-pin (3-hole) fire control groups are, by definition, machine gun receivers.
Accordingly, all owners (FFL Dealers or Consumers) of a GAP39 pistol must return their firearms to IWI US, Inc. immediately for either a full refund or you can opt for replacement with a 2-pin (2-hole) pistol within 90 to 120 days.
FFL Dealers and/or Consumers must include a copy of an invoice or receipt with the returned firearm. IWI US cannot issue a refund without a receipt.
There are no safety issues involved with this recall.
FFL Dealers and Consumers should contact IWI US, Inc. at (717) 695-2081, email recall@iwi.us or write the company at:
IWI US, Inc.
Attn. GAP39 Recall
P.O. Box 126707
Harrisburg, PA 17112
IWI US, Inc. will issue a Return Authorization number (RA#) and will issue a “Call Tag” for UPS to pick up the firearm(s) at no cost to the FFL Dealer or Consumer. Returned firearms must have a RA# or they will be refused.
Please allow up to 4 weeks to receive your refund.

http://iwi.us/iwi/media/Recall/Galil Gap 39/Galil-ACE-Recall-Notice-122815.pdf

Boss94 · Jun 22, 2016

Looks like the new 1s are finally shipping! And there about $400.00 cheaper than before.

IWI issues ACE recall because of possible NFA violation

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