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Old July 20th, 2019, 10:50 PM #31
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In MD, the only definition of what an HBAR is, is the one used by MSP.

Which is advertised or stamped HBAR PERIOD

Unless you want to possibly be the test case in court over the matter.
There are plenty of ARs on the MSPD Firearm Search website that do not have HBAR barrels and are not banned.
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Old July 20th, 2019, 10:52 PM #32
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There are plenty of ARs on the MSPD Firearm Search website that do not have HBAR barrels and are not banned.
If that is true, and it certainly is, then just buy their barrels and build whatever the hell you want!!!
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Old July 21st, 2019, 06:31 AM #33
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There are plenty of ARs on the MSPD Firearm Search website that do not have HBAR barrels and are not banned.
1) Many of the are piston guns, and are therefore not a copy of an AR-15

2) The list is NOT legally binding. It says so on the page.

There have been several guns showing as Banned, that when questioned were no longer Banned. And there have been one that were clearly banned, but showed up on the list as not banned.
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Old July 21st, 2019, 06:34 AM #34
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If that is true, and it certainly is, then just buy their barrels and build whatever the hell you want!!!
If you want to possibly be the test case for HBAR.

There is more to a rifle than the barrel. The one not banned my be a piston gun, versus DI. Even though you could use the barrel off the piston gun, the gun you build will be illegal.
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Old July 21st, 2019, 10:48 AM #35
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Nothing like reviving dinosaur threads.

In MD, the only definition of what an HBAR is, is the one used by MSP.

Which is advertised or stamped HBAR PERIOD

Unless you want to possibly be the test case in court over the matter.
^^^^
This

Let's call it "MD HBAR"

No connection to any measurements,, profiles, etc. LE will not measure your barrel profile and make a determination.

They will ask for your documentation that is was articulated by the manufacturer as an HBAR.

You are the manufacturer? Gets even grayer. Myself, I wouldn't.

IANAL YMMV and I don't think there have been any test cases on this.
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