Sig STX 1911 or...?

Blaster229 said:

I'm not sure that this re-release gets good reviews.

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Every review I've seen on it is overwhelmingly positive. They attribute tighter tolerances due to advances in modern machining and fabrication to guns that are very close to the handed fitted originals. They've also addressed some of the known issues the original had, particularly with timing. While the action on the Python was always better than the S&W, the Smith always had better timing and lockup...so I've read. That was the reason for the "Smolt" competition revolver - a Python barrel mated to a Smith and Wesson action.

trickg said:

2. The S&W 1911s look like they offer incredible value

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I'm sure they are but, they lost me with the fish-scale slide serrations.

As far as the new Python goes, I'm gonna wait a few more production runs to make sure they got all the bugs worked-out.

Zzzzz_man said:

I'm sure they are but, they lost me with the fish-scale slide serrations.

As far as the new Python goes, I'm gonna wait a few more production runs to make sure they got all the bugs worked-out.

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I think S&W had to do something to try to separate themselves from the rest of the field, hence the scales serrations. It's not a look I gravitate towards.

The DW Valor uses old school GI style serrations on the 2020 Valor - honestly I liked the wide angled serrations of the older Valor, which is one of the things that draws me to the Specialist.

Regarding the 2020 Python, it isn't like this is a pistol created from scratch. They had all the drawings from the old model Python, and they already addressed some of the known problems of that revolver. I can't see how the new Python can be anything but an improvement over the original.

trickg said:

I think S&W had to do something to try to separate themselves from the rest of the field, hence the scales serrations. It's not a look I gravitate towards.

The DW Valor uses old school GI style serrations on the 2020 Valor - honestly I liked the wide angled serrations of the older Valor, which is one of the things that draws me to the Specialist.

Regarding the 2020 Python, it isn't like this is a pistol created from scratch. They had all the drawings from the old model Python, and they already addressed some of the known problems of that revolver. I can't see how the new Python can be anything but an improvement over the original.

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S&W 1911's perform well and that's all that seems to matter to their owners. Some people are OK with non-traditional-looking 1911's but I'll admit I'm kind of old fashioned. DW's just look classy and are well made. If you like the Valor I think you'll like the Specialist since it's just a Valor with a rail.

I like and prefer the old Python, though, in spite of its shortcomings and known issues. There's just something about it. I also think the old-style trigger is 1000x better-looking than the new trigger but, if I were buying one to either hunt with or take to the range on a regular basis and wanted to shoot a lot of Magnum loads, I'd probably buy the new Python instead. I'm not in any big hurry, though.

Zzzzz_man said:

S&W 1911's perform well and that's all that seems to matter to their owners. Some people are OK with non-traditional-looking 1911's but I'll admit I'm kind of old fashioned. DW's just look classy and are well made. If you like the Valor I think you'll like the Specialist since it's just a Valor with a rail.

I like and prefer the old Python, though, in spite of its shortcomings and known issues. There's just something about it. I also think the old-style trigger is 1000x better-looking than the new trigger but, if I were buying one to either hunt with or take to the range on a regular basis and wanted to shoot a lot of Magnum loads, I'd probably buy the new Python instead. I'm not in any big hurry, though.

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I’ve thought of selling my blue Python and buying the new one so I can shoot it and be concerned about it. But I shoot 44 Magnum before shooting 357 so I haven’t gotten to that point yet...may just buy a new issue outright....

trickg said:

At an $1100 price point, that's not a gun I'd see as a safe queen. I guess it depends on perspective, but as a musician, I'm whacking $1500 with of cymbals with a stick, and my main gigging trumpet is a $2400 horn, but that's nothing - my buddy is playing a $4200 horn and he doesn't even clean it regularly.

I'm also not that worried about finding a holster for the squared slide, although it does drastically cut down on choices.

I've looked at the Springfield TRP, and there's a lot to like there, but it's almost a grand more than the RO - just a touch out of my price range for now, but on your suggestion I'll give it another look.

Is the general consensus that Sig makes good 1911s?

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Well, you know if we're talking instrument money...I know a guy selling a custom 1911.... (cough cough see avatar cough cough)

trickg said:

Every review I've seen on it is overwhelmingly positive. They attribute tighter tolerances due to advances in modern machining and fabrication to guns that are very close to the handed fitted originals. They've also addressed some of the known issues the original had, particularly with timing. While the action on the Python was always better than the S&W, the Smith always had better timing and lockup...so I've read. That was the reason for the "Smolt" competition revolver - a Python barrel mated to a Smith and Wesson action.

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Don’t forget the Couger. Colt Python barrel andRuger frame.

Nnztg8r said:

Don’t forget the Couger. Colt Python barrel andRuger frame.

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You need MILF for that one. It's a special blend of Mil-tec and Frog Lube

Trumpet said:

Well, you know if we're talking instrument money...I know a guy selling a custom 1911.... (cough cough see avatar cough cough)

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They're may come a time where I'll want to do a build and really trick out a 1911, but for this one there Dan Wesson Valor is going to hit the spot.

So here's a fun update for a Friday.

CZ USA/Dan Wesson called me this morning to tell me that my Valor is finally in stock, and they'll send it out to my FFL today. YAY! Kind of...

In the interim, I stumbled into a good deal on a very lightly used LNIB Dan Wesson Silverback - we're talking one box of ammo through it in total. In light of the fact that the Mediterranean cruise we were going to go on for my 50th birthday got canceled, my wife bought me that pistol as sort of a consolation birthday present. My fear at the time was that timing would work against me, and CZ USA would ship my pistol before 30 days had passed from buying the first one, and that's exactly what happened.

In an effort to get ahead of it if that happened, I applied for my Designated Collector a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't gotten a response yet. Hopefully I hear back soon and it won't be an issue, otherwise the FFL is going to have to hold the DW Valor until 30 days has passed, which is August 7th - it is what it is.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread - once the dust settles, I'll have not one, but two really nice 1911s. I haven't shot the Silverback yet, but everything about it oozes quality - the slide works like butter, the trigger is (my guess) somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4 lbs, and supper crisp. The adjustable tritium sights round the whole thing out. I can't imagine that the Valor will be anything less than spectacular. I'm glad I held out and upped my budget a bit to get a Dan Wesson. I'm sure the Sig would have been a nice enough pistol, but I can't see how it could come close to matching the fit and finish of a Dan Wesson.

Here's a pic of the Silverback.

You can buy two pistols at a time in Md, FFL just needs to combine the sale and then you gotta wait 60 days for next purchase. Of course all this doesn't matter once you get the collector paper.

I still haven't heard from SW about my 1911. Seems corona has everyone behind in production. When I get it maybe we should meet up and have a 1911/trumpet session lol

TD

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