Have you ever taken him to an Apple Seed shoot? The Apple Seed shoots teach history during shooting and gives meaning to what owning guns is all about. The boys and girls I have shot with really seem to get a lot out of it.
Cleaning Firearms
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Have you ever taken him to an Apple Seed shoot? The Apple Seed shoots teach history during shooting and gives meaning to what owning guns is all about. The boys and girls I have shot with really seem to get a lot out of it.
Raina
Active Member
I'm hoping to find a gun maintenance class (hands-on) where I can bring my stuff along with the cleaning kit and have an experienced person guide me how to do this. I am willing to pay for such a class.
I've looked at you-tube videos, and haven't yet found one that gives me the confidence to try cleaning my guns for the first time on my own. I'd prefer bringing them to someone who is willing to talk me through the steps in-person.
Does anyone know of local gunsmiths, ranges or FFL's who offer a maintenance how-to class?
I've looked at you-tube videos, and haven't yet found one that gives me the confidence to try cleaning my guns for the first time on my own. I'd prefer bringing them to someone who is willing to talk me through the steps in-person.
Does anyone know of local gunsmiths, ranges or FFL's who offer a maintenance how-to class?
onedash
Ultimate Member
No. But it looks like there are some every month nearby. Will have to check one out soon.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
I remember offering to help with this. I apologise for failing to follow through.
I'm in the process of setting up my new shop/classroom and it will be operational by the end of the first week of July. An accident has slowed down progress which has prevented me from doing any work or instruction.
If you have not found someone to step up, I'll let you know once my classroom is operational.
My most sincere apologies.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,042
Obviously there can be a happy medium here. Maybe John F M was being literal, maybe not. What I do is, with ARs and other guns I shoot a lot, I'll clean them once a year. I don't scrub them. Bores will get a couple oily, then dry patches through them. Interiors will be swabbed and blown free of crud. Relube the interiors, light coating of Barricade on the outside and I'm done. My hunting rifles even less than that. I prefer to keep their barrels fouled at all times. Maybe a dry patch down the bore now and again, wipe the outside down with oily, then dry cloth. Done.
Mr.Blue
Living In A Bizarro World
Great post.
davsco
Ultimate Member
i generally clean and lube .after each outing (most of which are matches). just a good opportunity to go over them and ensure no problems. and other than some time, the cost of this is pretty low.
yup
Like an old Chevy 350... leave all the oil and crud on. You clean it too much and it leaks like a sieve and falls apart. Not that extreme, but ya know
lol
Like an old Chevy 350... leave all the oil and crud on. You clean it too much and it leaks like a sieve and falls apart. Not that extreme, but ya know
lol
Doco Overboard
Ultimate Member
I clean the bore and moving parts of my weapons every time I shoot them. My goal is to prevent a build up of metallic and carbon fouling and prevent unnecessary wear. I find the cleaner they are, the less time it takes to do maintenance. With hunting rifles I do not clean until I have to or may just use an oily patch if they were wet.
I do it because I can and have no adverse effects or damage. Periodically I will clean with JB bore brite and Kroil or after a sufficient round count has passed or accuracy begins to suffer dramatically.
Shot guns I just mop the bore out, make sure there is no plastic residue that can trap moisture, good wipe down and carry on. Once in a while do a more thorough break down to remove bits of dirt and marsh grass that always seems to get in there. However, 22's once in a blue moon, maybe the action more than the bore if its a semi.
I do it because I can and have no adverse effects or damage. Periodically I will clean with JB bore brite and Kroil or after a sufficient round count has passed or accuracy begins to suffer dramatically.
Shot guns I just mop the bore out, make sure there is no plastic residue that can trap moisture, good wipe down and carry on. Once in a while do a more thorough break down to remove bits of dirt and marsh grass that always seems to get in there. However, 22's once in a blue moon, maybe the action more than the bore if its a semi.
BossmanPJ
Ultimate Member
I typically do not clean until my guns seem REALLY dirty or they have a problem. And I would venture to say that I shoot a lot more than most on the forum as I just walk outside and shoot. At least 2 times a week a few of my guns fire. Many times it is more than that.
I also have the habit of lubricating the crap out of pretty much and part on my guns that are metal. To me oil on metal is good and I’m not sure there can be “too much” lubricant on metal parts. Might be wrong but it works for me.
When it comes to my AR’s I drop the BCG into a mason jar of Mobil 1 and put it in the rifle. Works great.
I also have the habit of lubricating the crap out of pretty much and part on my guns that are metal. To me oil on metal is good and I’m not sure there can be “too much” lubricant on metal parts. Might be wrong but it works for me.
When it comes to my AR’s I drop the BCG into a mason jar of Mobil 1 and put it in the rifle. Works great.
There are a few of us here.
Btw, great to see both Clandestine and John in MD sharing their collective experience in this thread.
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Most people do the most damage to rifle when they are cleaning them.
I do not clean after every match, I go every other (150 rounds). However I'm chasing .5 MOA at 600 yards. Most people wouldn't need to clean that often.
I would recommend everyone use a boreguide, and nylon brushes.
Wipe out is a wonderful solvent and boretech makes good stuff also.
I do not clean after every match, I go every other (150 rounds). However I'm chasing .5 MOA at 600 yards. Most people wouldn't need to clean that often.
I would recommend everyone use a boreguide, and nylon brushes.
Wipe out is a wonderful solvent and boretech makes good stuff also.
I clean after every outing - and wipe down all the shiny bits with some gun grease. This is for long term storage. For me that means I don't come back in a year or five when that particular gun has been sleeping in the safe and find rust. I have some stuff that I have not shot in years. That does NOT mean I have too many guns.
That does mean that when I load up my guns to go to the range they need to be cleaned off and lubed.
Works for me.
That does mean that when I load up my guns to go to the range they need to be cleaned off and lubed.
Works for me.
For my bolt action centerfire rifles, I typically clean then after around 200 rounds or before the rifle is going to sit for a month or longer. For a 22, I was told its actually better to run the rifles slightly dirty in the barrel but to clean the chamber often. I usually end up brushing out the chamber and cleaning the action after every other trip to the range and will run a bore snake through the rifle after about 500-1000 rounds.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,042
Just a tip on using bore snakes; be sure to pull them straight out of the bore. Any angle on the snake as it comes out of the bore can erode the crown to one side. Wash them often to get rid of particulate matter that can act as an abrasive.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,252
Far more barrels are killed from excess cleaning , than excess shooting .
Yes , I get the idea about ( at least some) firearms absolutely, positively, must be functional in case of sudden need . And there are the stories ( some of them I know for fact to be true ) of duty pistols being discovered to be rusted solid .
These problems largely are related to environmental exposure ( rain, snow, sweat, humid or salty environments) , and lesser extent unsuitable lubricants that gum up . Little relationship to rounds fired, or number of shooting sessions .
Environmental issues aside, unclean/ marginally lubed guns rarely go directly from running perfectly to malfunction in a single bound . Usually will be gradual onset of feedback of gritty, sluggish of cycling or trigger, inconsistencies of cycling, trigger, routine manual of arms . At onset of any of these, give attention ( which will involve additional lubrication much more often than actual cleaning. ( Except for one specific DA Revolver thing )
Yes , I get the idea about ( at least some) firearms absolutely, positively, must be functional in case of sudden need . And there are the stories ( some of them I know for fact to be true ) of duty pistols being discovered to be rusted solid .
These problems largely are related to environmental exposure ( rain, snow, sweat, humid or salty environments) , and lesser extent unsuitable lubricants that gum up . Little relationship to rounds fired, or number of shooting sessions .
Environmental issues aside, unclean/ marginally lubed guns rarely go directly from running perfectly to malfunction in a single bound . Usually will be gradual onset of feedback of gritty, sluggish of cycling or trigger, inconsistencies of cycling, trigger, routine manual of arms . At onset of any of these, give attention ( which will involve additional lubrication much more often than actual cleaning. ( Except for one specific DA Revolver thing )
My highly unprofessional guidance that I follow is generally every other trip. I’ll spray a bit of hoppes #9 in the bore and chamber, let it sit about 5 minutes, a couple quick passes a brass brush if it gets used heavy, a cotton patch soaked in hoppes and then 5 minutes later a pair of dry patches front and back and then a patch with some CLP on it and out it away.
Each session I usually hit the outside with a nice coating of remoil unless it is something like my Glock or one of my ARs that is all plastic, alminum and/or nitrided steel.
My pistols I just run a cotton patch with a little hoppes on it through the bore and a minute later a dry patch both sides and then just spray a little remoil in the barrel. Usually after every use, but IMHO handgun ammo, or at least either the stuff I use or the fact I tend to shoot more of it on an outing leaves the barrels if my handguns dirtier. So I like to give them a light cleaning each time.
If I know something is going to sit a long time and I don’t use it often, I’ll run a bore snake after every range visit just because I know I won’t use it for 6 months.
My 10/22 gets the receiver swabbed out a little every couple of visits as I notice it’ll accumulate a lot of crap and sometimes get a little leading around the feed ramp. I think I’ve cleaned the bore...twice in the 3000+ rounds I’ve put through it.
Shotguns depends on how much it was shot. Usually about every 150 rounds I’ll clean the bore.
All bets are off though if I was out shooting it or hunting and it was raining/snowing. Then I’ll clean it up and oil it good as soon as I am back from the range or out of the field.
Each session I usually hit the outside with a nice coating of remoil unless it is something like my Glock or one of my ARs that is all plastic, alminum and/or nitrided steel.
My pistols I just run a cotton patch with a little hoppes on it through the bore and a minute later a dry patch both sides and then just spray a little remoil in the barrel. Usually after every use, but IMHO handgun ammo, or at least either the stuff I use or the fact I tend to shoot more of it on an outing leaves the barrels if my handguns dirtier. So I like to give them a light cleaning each time.
If I know something is going to sit a long time and I don’t use it often, I’ll run a bore snake after every range visit just because I know I won’t use it for 6 months.
My 10/22 gets the receiver swabbed out a little every couple of visits as I notice it’ll accumulate a lot of crap and sometimes get a little leading around the feed ramp. I think I’ve cleaned the bore...twice in the 3000+ rounds I’ve put through it.
Shotguns depends on how much it was shot. Usually about every 150 rounds I’ll clean the bore.
All bets are off though if I was out shooting it or hunting and it was raining/snowing. Then I’ll clean it up and oil it good as soon as I am back from the range or out of the field.
Raina
Active Member
Apology accepted...but unnecessary. I will look forward to this in July or later this year sometime. I hope the task of setting up your classroom goes smoothly from here.
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