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Old September 29th, 2018, 10:16 AM #11
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It has the field grade condition first. Which applies to the reciever and other parts. The barrel is new. Maybe the stock, but "field " grade rules apply.
I DO NOT want one of those hackberry stocks.
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For that matter, how does one tell the difference between a Garand that mas modified to shoot 308 and an original issue Garand 308 Garand? Don't they use the same receiver?
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A 308 will have block in the magazine well. The barrel would be roll marked. They are otherwise the same.
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Here's a nice terse description on the background of the 308 caliber M1:

When NATO went to 7.62x51, the Navy didn't want to spend the money to swap out their Garands for M-14s. So in order not to have an ammo problem, they decided to convert their Garands to the NATO cartridge. The first try was a chamber adapter to shorten the chamber on the existing 30.06 barrels. That didn't work out. Many of the chamber adapters simply extracted with the spent 7.62x51 (.308) brass. So they went ahead and had new, properly chambered, barrels manufactured, and rebarreled the rifles. There are also Navy presentation match rifles out there in the marketplace so chambered. Jim Adell is an expert on these pieces. Also, .308 barrels are available from the CMP or commercial sites, and the conversion is relatively easy.

As to the advantages/disadvantages, the biggest advantage of .308 over 30.06 is that it allows a shorter action rifle. I don't believe that the Garand's action can be shortened. Anything that .308 can do, 30.06 can do better, except work in a shorter action rifle. So, if you want to only have to work and reload with one cartridge, go with the .308. Otherwise.......


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There were no stand alone built 308 M1s. The navy modified 30-06 ones in the 50s? After that Springfield had a bunch of barrels and those started making their way around. "Forgotten Weapons" has some great videos about the .308 Garands.
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A 308 will have block in the magazine well. The barrel would be roll marked. They are otherwise the same.
But the receiver is the same? My point is; if I see a 308 caliber Garand for sale, there is no way to prove that it was a 308 GI issue versus a 30-06 GI issue that was converted to 308 by a civilian.
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But the receiver is the same? My point is; if I see a 308 caliber Garand for sale, there is no way to prove that it was a 308 GI issue versus a 30-06 GI issue that was converted to 308 by a civilian.
Correct. But, it's not an inexpensive mod. You can always ask for proof of where and who did the modification. CMP and the Navy arsenal would be the most common. The latter being more rare and valuable. Your question, yes the receiver is the same.
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If it has a Criterion barrel, it ain't an original 308 Garand. FWIW, I've found the Criterion barrels to be very good. For a shooter, I'd rather the Criterion barrel.

This may or may not be important to you, but I don't believe the 308 Garands qualify for the as issued CMP matches. Unlimited yes. I highly recommend the CMP matches (Butner for example). Lots of fun. Lots of good people. They started using electronic targets too!
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A 308 will have block in the magazine well. The barrel would be roll marked. They are otherwise the same.
Not completely true, will only have a block if the owner installed one.
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But the receiver is the same? My point is; if I see a 308 caliber Garand for sale, there is no way to prove that it was a 308 GI issue versus a 30-06 GI issue that was converted to 308 by a civilian.
Everything is exactly the same between a 308 Garand and a 30.06 Garand except for the barrel
If USGI the barrel will be stamped 7.62 not 308
A 308 Garand my or may not have a block, all depends if the last owner used one. Personally I do not, they are a waste of money and not needed
As stated you will need to pull back op rod and read what is stamped on side of barrel to see if its USGI or commercial
Here is a pic of my Navy SA 7.62 non sleeved barrel

HR non sleeved 7.62
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