I need to borrow CZ82 9x18 doublestack magazines ASAP

• Jan 16, 2015

• #1

Weak_Hand_Only

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Mar 17, 2010

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Will compensate. I work at a testing facility and we are testing the gun today with government witnesses. The kicker is the client sent us single stack mags by mistake and we need the doublestacks. Please PM me if you have some that I could borrow until Tuesday (1/20)

We're in the Bel Air area, considering we need the mags today if you are more than 45 minutes away it may not work.

Thanks

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #2

Half-cocked

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• Jan 16, 2015

• #3

budman93

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If you find someone willing to lend them you have to drive to PA to transfer.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #4

Weak_Hand_Only

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Nevermind, just discovered they are 12 rounders, can't transfer

Mod please delete.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #5

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Melnic

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Borrowing is not transferring. Transferring is changing ownership.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #6

protegeV

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Melnic said:

Borrowing is not transferring. Transferring is changing ownership.

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• Jan 16, 2015

• #7

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Machodoc

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Melnic said:

Borrowing is not transferring. Transferring is changing ownership.

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That's the sort of thing that you might have to prove in court--from the defensive side--in Maryland. Not only are the laws there complex and convoluted, the enforcers don't understand them any better than anyone else does.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #8

protegeV

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Machodoc said:

That's the sort of thing that you might have to prove in court--from the defensive side--in Maryland. Not only are the laws there complex and convoluted, the enforcers don't understand them any better than anyone else does.

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i know right. common sense need not apply.

"Here, borrow my car for the afternoon. Don't forget to retitle it and insure it in your name while you have it."

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #9

iH8DemLibz

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Machodoc said:

That's the sort of thing that you might have to prove in court--from the defensive side--in Maryland. Not only are the laws there complex and convoluted, the enforcers don't understand them any better than anyone else does.

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^^^YUP^^^

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #10

budman93

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Melnic said:

Borrowing is not transferring. Transferring is changing ownership.

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Maybe, but not worth the risk in my opinion.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #11

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Melnic

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I'm not going to debate the definition of the word "transfer". That's been debated in the 2A section many times I believe.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #12

Threeband

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I thought we already had a court ruling on this. Borrowing, even for an extended period (like months) is not transferring, at least not for handguns.

You can believe me, because I'm a guy on the internet. Print this post out and carry it in your wallet.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #13

protegeV

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Threeband said:

I thought we already had a court ruling on this. Borrowing, even for an extended period (like months) is not transferring, at least not for handguns.

You can believe me, because I'm a guy on the internet. Print this post out and carry it in your wallet.

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Done.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #14

CasualObserver

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• Jan 16, 2015

• #15

Half-cocked

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FWIW, the whole "borrowing a handgun from someone is perfectly legal, because a judge ruled that it wasn't a transfer" has NOT been tested for situations in which the borrower is not a cop. Call me cynical, but I doubt John Q. Public would have gotten the same opinion.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #16

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Machodoc

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My concern is not that the BATFE would have problems with a loan vs. a transfer, but that MD, with its odd way of doing things, might take a different approach--especially when it comes to an item that can't be sold within the state anymore.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #17

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JamesH

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Oct 11, 2014

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The definition of transfer has been settled by Maryland courts. Chow v State of Maryland ruled that transfer means permanent transfer of ownership, not lending. This was a firearm case.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #18

zoostation

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I wouldn't bet too much on the Chow case. That pertained to the transfer of a regulated firearm and if I am not mistaken, did not deal with the word "receive," which is mentioned in the mag limit law. While it would probably hold up in my layman's opinion, there's a lot at stake to make that leap. IANAL!

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #19

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JamesH

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Laurel, MD

If the issue is so doubtful, I'm surprised my local FFL01 takes the chance renting guns with standard capacity magazines on their range.

 

• Jan 16, 2015

• #20

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Dave.B

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Single stack CZ82 mags? Sure you have the right gun? I believe the CA legal version of the mag is still double stack even at 10 rounds. Could be wrong though. What are you testing that 2 rounds will make a difference? Also your offer of compensation could be considered by some to be a sale.