AR-15 complete lowers Cash & Carry or 7-Day weight?

Muleskinner · Feb 21, 2020

While I'm sure this has been brought up before I'm getting conflicting answers when I do a search.

Are complete AR-15 lowers including stock considered rifles so they can be sold Cash and Carry or are they considered regulated because they are AR-15 lowers? I have one gun store that tells me they will not sell AR-15 complete lowers including stock as a rifle but they will sell AR-10 and AR- 9 lowers as cash and carry which makes no sense to me because both of those can also be used to build a pistol.

So which is it?

Hit and Run · Feb 21, 2020

Muleskinner said:
While I'm sure this has been brought up before I'm getting conflicting answers when I do a search.

Are complete AR-15 lowers including stock considered rifles so they can be sold Cash and Carry or are they considered regulated because they are AR-15 lowers? I have one gun store that tells me they will not sell AR-15 complete lowers including stock as a rifle but they will sell AR-10 and AR- 9 lowers as cash and carry which makes no sense to me because both of those can also be used to build a pistol.

So which is it?

When I queried MSP here was there answer.

Hi,
I want to make sure I am not being overly restrictive in terms of transferring lower receivers. For discussion,I am breaking items up into 4 categories,* all of which I have or tell potential customers we need to follow state regulated sales process.

1. Basic AR-15 lower stripped or completed without any type of butt stock.

MSP** - Requires a 77R and a 4473.

2. AR-15 complete lower assembly with Carbine or Rifle Buttstock.

MSP -*Requires a 77R and a 4473 unless this is a completed heavy barrel rifle (exception Bushmaster which is automatically banned) at which time only a 4473 would be required since it would be a long gun.

3. AR-10 lower receiver stripped or completed in any fashion.

MSP **- AR-10's are not regulated at this time and can be sold using a 4473.**

4. Any other type of serialized receiver needing FFL to transfer

MSP** - Any lower receiver of any of the enumerated regulated firearms or their copies listed under Public Safety 5-101 (r)(2).* Two prime examples are the AR-15 lower and AK-47 lowers.* They are enumerated and therefore the lowers would require a 77R and 4473.* However with the AK-47 lower, a person can only build a handgun or sbr (in compliance with federal and state law).
*
I get questions on why on 2 and 3 often.
Any more prescriptive guidance I can point customers too?
Vr,
Mike Bourque*
MTB Gunworks*
*

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Arcamm · Feb 21, 2020

That clarifies things.

If you buy a completed lower without a HB installed, you need both forms.

BUT! What if I give the selling FFL a MD complaint HB upper to install on the complete lower, then buy the lower as a complete rifle? What forms then?

Muleskinner · Feb 21, 2020

What if you don't want a 5.56 upper? Then the h-bar requirement goes out the window for now. What if I just want to buy the lower complete with a stock and no upper? Do I have to tell them what Caliber Upper on putting on it? If not then why can't I just buy the lower receiver complete with the stock as a rifle? I know it's ridiculous but I don't need the upper. If I can buy a full rifle Cash and Carry and the rifle is considered the lower serialized portion why can't I just buy a completed lower as cash and carry?

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