CMP Rack Grade Special Winchester M1 for $700; Is this a Deal or What?

calicojack · Oct 6, 2019

This sounds like a good deal to me; is there a down side?

"CMP Special Rack Grade (.30-06) M1 Garand. This is a partially refurbished rifle with a refinished M1 WRA receiver, new production criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. "

"Receiver will have heavy pitting above the wood line."

Pitting / shmitting! Who cares? It's been refinished and it's got a new Criterion barrel.

GunnyHwy · Oct 6, 2019

I recently handled one but with a SA receiver. As described, the receiver is pitted but re-parked. With the new barrel and tight new stock it should make a great shooter.

calicojack · Oct 6, 2019

GunnyHwy said:
I recently handled one but with a SA receiver. As described, the receiver is pitted but re-parked. With the new barrel and tight new stock it should make a great shooter.

Yes. Last few gun shows I have been to I was hard pressed to find a Garand for $700; and those that were less than $1000 looked like a beater. Not to mention I don't see a lot of Winchesters or IHC's compared to HRA or SA. Ok - so not a "correct" collectible; but should be a lot of fun.

Qbeam · Oct 6, 2019

While not the prettiest, they're still solid and can go to the dance. If I could, I would get one.

Q

calicojack · Oct 6, 2019

Fulton Armory wants $2,349.95 for a rebuilt Garand. AND - I have to send it to an FFL and pay SALES TAX!!

https://www.fulton-armory.com/fultonarmoryusriflecal762mmm14-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.aspx

"Fulton Armory Precision Guarantee: Under 2.5 MOA (With Federal Gold Medal Match Ammunition)"

Well - I bet the CMP rifle can do that! Just saying.

ted76 · Oct 7, 2019

Here is a nice one, to keep a eye on, if you are in the market for one, current bid is $227.22, NR with 7 days left.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/835748724

calicojack · Oct 7, 2019

ted76 said:
Here is a nice one, to keep a eye on, if you are in the market for one, current bid is $227.22, NR with 7 days left.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/835748724

Smart; start low and get a lot of folks bidding on it. Better than a lot of them who start the bidding at 999.99 with a buy it now of 1300.00

calicojack · Oct 7, 2019

Qbeam said:
While not the prettiest, they're still solid and can go to the dance. If I could, I would get one.

Q

Not the prettiest - true enough. But the service grade Winchester specials were selling for $1250!! For a $550 discount I think I can overlook some receiver pitting, esp. if the receiver has been refinished.

atblis · Oct 7, 2019

Bes

Best shooter I have is a special field. I wouldn't go out of my way to get a Winchester though. The best Garands I've had are H&Rs.

The Criterion barrels are superb.

The replacements stocks are very meh.

ken792 · Oct 7, 2019

Some of those RGS receivers are very ugly and some look quite nice. At least one guy on CMP Forums got one with rounded rear sight serrations, but CMP said they're swapping it out.

The new production stocks can generally be tuned to shoot accurately, but there are some terrible ones too. I know two people who bought regular Specials with new production stocks that have too little wood on the receiver bedding surfaces. The whole receiver just kind of floats on the stock and locking down the trigger guard provides no compression.

As mentioned, the rest of the parts are Rack Grade and are not refinished. You could potentially get stuff like out of spec op rods or very heavy pitting on the op rod or trigger housing, but I haven't yet heard of an op rod not working on one of those.

todbiker · Oct 7, 2019

If I was buying one to shoot, I'd be onboard due to the new barrel and CMP standing behind it. I have sent back 2 Garands and CMP took care of the issues and shipped back for free. I only paid shipping to CMP on the second one that I'd had beyond a year when I started shooting it.

calicojack · Oct 7, 2019

I have never got a rack grade before so really appreciate the comments. My enthusiasm is starting to temper some what.

calicojack · Oct 7, 2019

ken792 said:
As mentioned, the rest of the parts are Rack Grade and are not refinished. You could potentially get stuff like out of spec op rods or very heavy pitting on the op rod or trigger housing, but I haven't yet heard of an op rod not working on one of those.

Hmm - I am glad you reminded me of that:

"Remainder of the other parts have NOT been refinished."

lazarus · Oct 7, 2019

It is tempting for me. I want a deer rifle/shooter. I have a service grade with a new wood stock. I’d rather one I don’t mind bumping around the woods some. I just don’t have the money or spousal patients. Maybe next year if they still have any.

grimnar15 · Oct 7, 2019

Shuff’s soes some great stuff with M1 Garands. His mini-g and bm14 conversions are something else.

http://shuffsparkerizing.com/services/the-mini-g/

offthepaper · Oct 10, 2019

It is tempting for me. I want a deer rifle/shooter. I have a service grade with a new wood stock. I’d rather one I don’t mind bumping around the woods some. I just don’t have the money or spousal patients. Maybe next year if they still have any.

If your looking for a good deer rifle in that price range ($700) you could do better than an M1.
I would suggest a Ruger American in 30-06 or 308. I have 4 of them in different calibers (223,243,30-06, & 6.5 CM), I put on relatively cheap scopes, under $250, and every one of them is damn near a tack driver with no mods needed. While I would like a nice walnut stock, I really have no complaints against any of them.
While I love my Garands for their history and reach, if you want an accurate hunting rifle, and who doesn't, their level of MOA doesn't really compare to most modern hunting rifles.

budman93 · Oct 10, 2019

offthepaper said:
If your looking for a good deer rifle in that price range ($700) you could do better than an M1.
I would suggest a Ruger American in 30-06 or 308. I have 4 of them in different calibers (223,243,30-06, & 6.5 CM), I put on relatively cheap scopes, under $250, and every one of them is damn near a tack driver with no mods needed. While I would like a nice walnut stock, I really have no complaints against any of them.
While I love my Garands for their history and reach, if you want an accurate hunting rifle, and who doesn't, their level of MOA doesn't really compare to most modern hunting rifles.

They are also really freaking heavy. I don't want to carry one around in the woods.

lazarus · Oct 11, 2019

offthepaper said:
If your looking for a good deer rifle in that price range ($700) you could do better than an M1.
I would suggest a Ruger American in 30-06 or 308. I have 4 of them in different calibers (223,243,30-06, & 6.5 CM), I put on relatively cheap scopes, under $250, and every one of them is damn near a tack driver with no mods needed. While I would like a nice walnut stock, I really have no complaints against any of them.
While I love my Garands for their history and reach, if you want an accurate hunting rifle, and who doesn't, their level of MOA doesn't really compare to most modern hunting rifles.

I've got deer rifles. I want an M1 specifically that I wouldn't mind bumping around in deer woods for hunting deer. I borrowed a neighbor's M1 once when we went hunting together. Yeah, heavy as heck and I regretted it by the end of the day, but I also ended up hiking probably 10 miles that day. I would not carry one again if I was doing that kind of hunting. But IMHO not bad for flat and shorter hikes.

Not something I'd do often, but there are nuts who hunt with flintlock rifles and traditional sights, for the challenge.

A bit of a beater M1 that isn't in terrible shape, that shoots well would fit the bill. Plus having a 2nd M1 is like having a side piece where both CAN know about each other.

ted76 · Oct 11, 2019

If you are set on an M1 for hunting deer, you may want to look for a "Tanker" version in .308.
It would weigh a little less.

Matlack · Oct 11, 2019

ted76 said:
If you are set on an M1 for hunting deer, you may want to look for a "Tanker" version in .308.
It would weigh a little less.

While that is true, it is a very uncommon rifle that brings a premium. I highly doubt he will find one that is $700.

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