Springfield M1A line banned in MD?

iH8DemLibz · Dec 21, 2015

danb said:
Any experience with the FNAR?

Besides the fact that it's uglier than Frosh's mustache, I have heard its tricky to disassemble and clean? And find parts?

Can't help you there.

dontpanic · Dec 21, 2015

danb said:
Any experience with the FNAR?

Besides the fact that it's uglier than Frosh's mustache, I have heard its tricky to disassemble and clean? And find parts?

I've heard all that. I shot one before I bought my M1A. I was looking for alternatives if I was not able to find a M1A prior to 10/1/2013.

I know that list price is WAY high. They go for $950-1000 whenever I have seen one. And on Gunbroker.

outrider58 · Dec 21, 2015

I do believe they can be SBRed

Gabagool · Dec 21, 2015

danb said:
Any experience with the FNAR?

Besides the fact that it's uglier than Frosh's mustache, I have heard its tricky to disassemble and clean? And find parts?

I've had an FNAR for a few months now. I've only cleaned it once, and it was a pain; but I was able to find a pretty helpful YouTube video to guide me through it. It was not daunting enough a task that I would let that steer you away from the gun. I'm sure subsequent cleanings will be much easier.

Mags, on the other hand, are difficult to find and expensive. I managed to find some "standard" capacity mags in DE for a steal. Guy said he has been sitting on them for years and wanted them gone. :party29:

Still looking for a 5-rounder or two if I ever want to take the gun hunting. :sad20:

Not to change the subject of the thread, but does anyone know offhand if mags/parts are interchangeable between the BAR and FNAR?

ken792 · Dec 21, 2015

toshman said:
Not to change the subject of the thread, but does anyone know offhand if mags/parts are interchangeable between the BAR and FNAR?

If you're talking about the BAR hunting rifle, yes. It is based off of it. However, it has nothing to do with the M1918 BAR.

danb · Dec 21, 2015

toshman said:
I've had an FNAR for a few months now. I've only cleaned it once, and it was a pain; but I was able to find a pretty helpful YouTube video to guide me through it. It was not daunting enough a task that I would let that steer you away from the gun. I'm sure subsequent cleanings will be much easier.

Mags, on the other hand, are difficult to find and expensive. I managed to find some "standard" capacity mags in DE for a steal. Guy said he has been sitting on them for years and wanted them gone.

Still looking for a 5-rounder or two if I ever want to take the gun hunting.

Not to change the subject of the thread, but does anyone know offhand if mags/parts are interchangeable between the BAR and FNAR?

ken792 said:
If you're talking about the BAR hunting rifle, yes. It is based off of it. However, it has nothing to do with the M1918 BAR.

So, wait.... are you saying that one could get a BAR (like the Mark II Safari) in .308 and use standard capacity FNAR mags, not the 5 rounders?

zoostation · Dec 21, 2015

Sling Blade said:
Polytech....IF you can find an FFL that is aware that the parts won't interchange.

Yep, and IIRC the Polytech is on the MSP list as "not banned" as well.

rdc · Dec 21, 2015

zoostation said:
Yep, and IIRC the Polytech is on the MSP list as "not banned" as well.

A few months ago the Gun Bunker in PA had some and were fully aware that they were legal in MD.

ken792 · Dec 21, 2015

danb said:
So, wait.... are you saying that one could get a BAR (like the Mark II Safari) in .308 and use standard capacity FNAR mags, not the 5 rounders?

I don't think the mags are interchangeable, since the FNAR has that mag well protrusion. The internal parts should be interchangeable.

danb · Dec 21, 2015

ken792 said:
I don't think the mags are interchangeable, since the FNAR has that mag well protrusion. The internal parts should be interchangeable.

It was too much to hope for.

Bolts Rock · Dec 21, 2015

Juche90 said:
1. You get a field grade garand from the CMP
2. Send it to shuffs for the mag conversion to a
Mag fed garand.

You might want to double check that. If it's based on the Beretta BM-59 conversion it's banned.

kenpo333 · Dec 21, 2015

dontpanic said:
FNAR

http://www.fnhusa.com/products/autoloading-rifles/fnar-heavy/

I own the 20in fluted and love it. Great choice

ken792 · Dec 21, 2015

Bolts Rock said:
You might want to double check that. If it's based on the Beretta BM-59 conversion it's banned.

Have it converted to take M14 mags. They're cheaper and less bulky than BM59 mags anyway. A friend of mine bought a BM59E parts kit and sent it off to Shuff's to have built, but to take M14 mags.

SCARCQB · Dec 21, 2015

Just get a Chinese copy , replace the bolt sometime. And enjoy it. Before MSP realizes how retarded our gun laws are.

Straightbolt · Dec 21, 2015

Combloc said:
Of course you are going to find negative stuff; it's an American design built by the Chinese. Most of that crap was started by Fulton and Springfield armories
because you could buy what was essentially the same rifle (and in some ways better) they were making for 1/3 of the price. The only way to compete was to discredit the Chinese offering. You'll read all kinds of stuff about soft bolts, inferior parts, etc., etc. ad nauseam yet no one could ever actually produce proof of that. And it they did find a failure, they tried to say that all were that way. With a little research though, you will find lots and lots of guys like me who have actually OWNED one for many many years with absolutely ZERO problems. This poor dead horse gets beaten over and over and the same old crap gets rehashed over and over. Yeah....they're Chinese so they're junk.

+1
Have a close friend who owns a Polytech M14 that shoots very well with no issues. I own and have owned many Chinese made AK and SKS rifles and can attest that what ever else the Chinese make that is subpar in general it ain't their firearms.

bkuether · Dec 21, 2015

BadKarma said:
Lovely. So can buy virtually the same thing if its a cheaper made foreign import if I am understanding correctly. For the M14 options at least -_- Way to support American businesses MD politicians.

I guess I will look into the Polytech and Norinco options for now but my first glance saw a good deal of negatives.

This ban makes even less sense than the AK bans to me. When was the last time an M14 was used in a crime it would be fun to know.

STOP trying to figure it out. You WILL hurt yourself. :rolleyes:

Pinecone · Dec 22, 2015

SCARCQB said:
Just get a Chinese copy , replace the bolt sometime. And enjoy it. Before MSP realizes how retarded our gun laws are.

If you modify the receiver to take a standard bolt, you have created a banned firearm, as it is now a COPY of the M1A.

The reason the Polytech is legal is that it is not directly parts swappable. Change that, and you change the status.

SCARCQB · Dec 22, 2015

Then you hand fit a usgi bolt into the receiver. Leave the receiver intact.

Sewer Rat · Dec 22, 2015

Straightbolt said:
+1
Have a close friend who owns a Polytech M14 that shoots very well with no issues. I own and have owned many Chinese made AK and SKS rifles and can attest that what ever else the Chinese make that is subpar in general it ain't their firearms.

+2 - also have a friend that owns a polytech, loves it...

Drmsparks · Dec 22, 2015

Pinecone said:
If you modify the receiver to take a standard bolt, you have created a banned firearm, as it is now a COPY of the M1A.

The reason the Polytech is legal is that it is not directly parts swappable. Change that, and you change the status.

Nope. The gas system is not interchangeable. That's the main difference more so than the bolt. Chinese bolts are soft, not a different spec.

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