CMMG Banshee for IPSC and IDPA

psybersapien · May 10, 2020

Can the pistol variant of a CMMG Banshee be used in IPSC and/or IDPA PCC matches?
I came across the following rules and wasn't sure since the brace that comes on the pistol can be shouldered.

IDPA
"1.1 - Rifles permitted for use in PCC must*:
A. Be semi-automatic.
B. Use 9 mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, 10mm, and .45 ACP pistol caliber cartridges.
C. Designed to be fired from the shoulder and have a shoulder stock installed."

IPSC
"5.1.10 The firearm must be fitted with a stock enabling it to be fired from the shoulder (see Rule 10.5.15)."

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danb · May 10, 2020

I think that the ATF would have something to say about a pistol "Designed to be fired from the shoulder and have a shoulder stock installed" or "fitted with a stock enabling it to be fired from the shoulder"

Pretty self explanatory, to me.

Bikebreath · May 10, 2020

A brace is not a shoulder stock.

Even though you use that hand cream for "other" applications, doesn't make it a "lubricant".

gwchem · May 10, 2020

Not many ipsc matches around here so I don't know their rules.

Uspsa and idpa clearly define that braced pistols are not allowed.

psybersapien · May 10, 2020

I'll take the feedback as a clear, unanimous NO.

A pistol variant of the CMMG Banshee in a pistol caliber CANNOT be used in IPSC and IDPA PCC competitions.

erwos · May 10, 2020

psybersapien said:
I'll take the feedback as a clear, unanimous NO.

A pistol variant of the CMMG Banshee in a pistol caliber CANNOT be used in IPSC and IDPA PCC competitions.

You have correctly interpreted the rules, yes. Pay your tax stamp or find a real rifle.

jimbobborg · May 10, 2020

I'll say this, it's a LOT easier going around barriers with a PDW than a carbine. Yes, I shot a couple of matches (not for score) and did really well with my CZ Scorpion.

davsco · May 10, 2020

jimbobborg said:
I'll say this, it's a LOT easier going around barriers with a PDW than a carbine. Yes, I shot a couple of matches (not for score) and did really well with my CZ Scorpion.

the reason i put together a sbr pcc. looking forward to having some uspsa etc fun with it!

jimbobborg · May 10, 2020

davsco said:
the reason i put together a sbr pcc. looking forward to having some uspsa etc fun with it!

I asked Todd Jarrett if he'd be faster with a PDW and he said yes. But it's too much of a hassle with all of the traveling he does.

davsco · May 10, 2020

jimbobborg said:
I asked Todd Jarrett if he'd be faster with a PDW and he said yes. But it's too much of a hassle with all of the traveling he does.

yes, hassle out of state. i already filed for taking mine to peacemaker and shadowhawk. one year.

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