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Old September 12th, 2017, 03:58 PM #1
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Cool Penalty For Unauthorized Carry?

A friend who is a former police officer in another state and who subsequently moved to Texas, told me that regardless of where he goes in Maryland and other gun restrictive states, he carries. Not all the time, but when he went hiking or camping in national parks, he never went unarmed.

I told him that if he were caught, it wouldn't be worth it. Not only would he lose his concealed weapons permits, he most likely would lose all of his firearms and the right to buy firearms for the rest of his life.

I've never read any media accounts of anyone being convicted of illegal carry in Maryland, though I'm certain it must happen. I just wondered if anyone either knows anyone who has been arrested and convicted for illegal carry, or knows of someone who has. I only know of two cases, and both were in Washington, D.C. One guy accidentally drove over the Memorial Bridge with a rifle on a rack in his pickup truck; the other guy was on an elevator to his apartment when he was attacked by two guys. He pulled out a Raven .25ACP and shot one of them. Both attackers were arrested, but they fingered the guy who shot at them.

In the first case, it made no difference that the guy took the wrong turnoff and immediately did a U-turn to return to Virginia. He was pulled over by the D.C. Police in Virginia once he'd re-crossed the bridge. He got off with a substantial amount of civic service and I don't recall if he lost his right to possess and use guns. In the second case, the man was smart and contacted the NRA, who represented him and got the charges dropped.

If anyone knows of any Maryland cases or cases in other tough states, I'd be interested in hearing them. I understand it's now legal to carry pepper spray in Maryland. How about tasers?

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Violating 4-203 carries a 3 year penalty. Even if you don't recieve the full penalty , it is still makes you a Prohibited Person under federal law .
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Is he a retired police officer? If so, he may be legally carrying in many of those places.
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Is he a retired police officer? If so, he may be legally carrying in many of those places.
This. LEOSA
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Just answering the question as asked . It may have been asked that way either inadvertently, or on purpose.

LEOSA has its fine print, every position not necessarily covered, nor every permutation of " former" .
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If one is willing to break the law regardless of consequences, this person is not much better than the thugs in Baltimore. Maybe I should shop paying taxes because I think Social Security and Obamacare is socialism and unconstitutional too.
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If one is willing to break the law regardless of consequences, this person is not much better than the thugs in Baltimore. Maybe I should shop paying taxes because I think Social Security and Obamacare is socialism and unconstitutional too.
Worst post of the thread.

Really? How many laws do you think you break a day? Not better than a Baltimore thug? I disagree. I am not advocating breaking unconstitutional laws but I won't sh1t talk those who make the choice.

A free man following the supreme law of the land that understands "shall not be infringed" should not be compared to a Baltimore thug.
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If one is willing to break the law regardless of consequences, this person is not much better than the thugs in Baltimore. Maybe I should shop paying taxes because I think Social Security and Obamacare is socialism and unconstitutional too.
Oh please.. Drama much? Ever pee where you shouldn't have? BW Parkway perhaps?
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Is he a retired police officer? If so, he may be legally carrying in many of those places.
Hold on now, let's break it down. One doesn't have to be 20 year retired for their leosa card. 10 years of cumulative, verifiable LEO service separated under good conditions from their last agency also qualifies someone.
OR someone who had 18 months and passed their probationary period but got separated medically, without having 10 years service also qualifies under leosa.

And let's remember, they may only carry in places where permit carrying citizens of the state they are in may carry. Permit holders in Ohio might be able to carry in churches, but in Minnesota they may not be allowed. Leosa is very restrictive.
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