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Old September 11th, 2017, 02:52 PM #1
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This has to be an HBAR, RIGHT?

Box fluted for Christ sakes. this has to be MD Legal..........right?

https://www.salientarmsinternational...are-cut-barrel
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Does not have to be anything, let alone legal. Maryland rules bear no resemblance to logic.

Even if it was an HBAR, 14.5 " barrel is a whole other world of complicated !@# where NFA SBR rules collide with MD 29" OAL requirement.

As an aside, I have never seen a square barrel before. I have seen octagonal barrels. DO the bullets have to be square too?
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Does not have to be anything, let alone legal. Maryland rules bear no resemblance to logic.

Even if it was an HBAR, 14.5 " barrel is a whole other world of complicated !@# where NFA SBR rules collide with MD 29" OAL requirement.

As an aside, I have never seen a square barrel before. I have seen octagonal barrels. DO the bullets have to be square too?
yes the bullets are indeed square
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My understanding of HBAR is at least one of two things must be true:
1) Advertised/marketed as a heavy barrel
2) Stamped as heavy barrel

If my understanding is correct, it could be a 2" diameter depleted uranium bull barrel that weighs ten pounds and if one of those conditions isn't met, it isn't an HBAR.
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My understanding of HBAR is at least one of two things must be true:
1) Advertised/marketed as a heavy barrel
2) Stamped as heavy barrel

If my understanding is correct, it could be a 2" diameter depleted uranium bull barrel that weighs ten pounds and if one of those conditions isn't met, it isn't an HBAR.
I am going with this.

To be fair though, if it takes square bullets, it may not be interchangeable with other ARs, so technically (like piston driven ARs)... legal.
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Does not have to be anything, let alone legal. Maryland rules bear no resemblance to logic.

Even if it was an HBAR, 14.5 " barrel is a whole other world of complicated !@# where NFA SBR rules collide with MD 29" OAL requirement.

As an aside, I have never seen a square barrel before. I have seen octagonal barrels. DO the bullets have to be square too?
Just gotta pin a flash hider or brake on the barrel to make the length over 16" and good to go
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Just gotta pin a flash hider or brake on the barrel to make the length over 16" and good to go


Agreed on the length, but that doesn't change the fact that the manufacturer of the barrel does not state that it is a heavy barrel. If the manufacturer simply added a bullet point to the description that says, "heavy barrel," it would be good to go if pinned to be 16" long.
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You can email the manufacturer and ask them if it's a heavy barrel. If they say it is, save the response.
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As noted, presumably a pinned & welded muzzle device of suitable length would hypothetically be involved.

But the linked description does not invoke the magic word of " Heavy " .

This isn't supposed to make sense, but there is no logic involved.

Instead of finding an infinite number of cool barrels and pulling out your hair about them not being Maryland complient , reverse your search process . Start with the universe of bbls marked/ advertised as Heavy , then narrow down those of interest to you.

OR , the same two IP's are frequently mentioned as being capable of machining a bbl blank from Douglass, Hart, Lija, whoever , to your desired specifications.
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They mill off a ton of material, reducing the diameter and strength of the barrel, and then say the process reduces whip/movement/flexing.

Hogwash.

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