Franklin armory reformation

Fox123 · Jan 11, 2018

Not a rifle, not a shotgun, but has short barrel and not NFA item.

Only thing I can think is smooth bore?

https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/201...arrel-firearm-standard-ar-stock-atf-approval/

Truthlesshero81 · Jan 11, 2018

Just what I’ve always wanted, a smooth bore AR...

Fox123 · Jan 11, 2018

That's just my guess, I could not find any details.

HiStandards · Jan 11, 2018

I just wish they hadn't used the word "loophole". They should have said "in strict compliance with existing laws and regulations".

erwos · Jan 11, 2018

Truthlesshero81 said:
Just what I’ve always wanted, a smooth bore AR...

The best guess I saw online was that the muzzle device was rifled to impart a bit of spin on the projectile.

Suffice it to say, this seems kinda dumb. $200 is worth it to have a rifled barrel, that's for sure.

Fox123 · Jan 11, 2018

That's what I was thinking like a rifled choke, or didn't the Russians do something with their SKS that only a small portion of the end of the barrel was rifled?

Fox123 · Jan 11, 2018

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/30/whats-new-at-world-guns-ru-an-sks-shotguns/

Oneqwickr6 · Jan 11, 2018

Not a rifle
Not a shotgun
Not allowed in Maryland

Just my guess

Fox123 · Jan 12, 2018

What would MD call it though, they called the mossberg shockwave a pistol?

ken792 · Jan 12, 2018

I've heard some people saying that it has a twisted oval bore that's not legally "rifling" since it is neither cut into the barrel nor does it have distinct grooves.

I've heard others saying that the binary trigger makes it not an SBR since the NFA definition of a "rifle" is one shot per "pull" of the trigger while the definition of a "machinegun" is more than one shot per "function" of the trigger.

I guess we'll have to wait for their reveal at SHOT Show.

Fox123 said:
What would MD call it though, they called the mossberg shockwave a pistol?

Doesn't MD consider anything with a barrel less than 16" to be a pistol?

rbird7282 · Jan 12, 2018

HiStandards said:
I just wish they hadn't used the word "loophole". They should have said "in strict compliance with existing laws and regulations".

Yeah whomever wrote that press release is a moron

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Melnic · Jan 12, 2018

Reference document:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-chapter-2/download

Alphabrew · Jan 12, 2018

Franklin Armory is poking a stick at the ATF and saying “hey y’all watch this!”

That said, shut up and take my money!

Fox123 · Jan 12, 2018

I'm interested in what it is they did and if/how you can build it yourself.

danb · Jan 12, 2018

Fox123 said:
I'm interested in what it is they did and if/how you can build it yourself.

Patent pending. So says presser. If its true that they did something patentable, they will control the parts market.

Mark75H · Jan 12, 2018

danb said:
Patent pending. So says presser. If its true that they did something patentable, they will control the parts market.

Also means you can probably look up the pending application and see what it is

danb · Jan 12, 2018

Mark75H said:
Also means you can probably look up the pending application and see what it is

Yes, but .gov probably wont get back to you until after SHOT show...

Hog Sniper · Jan 15, 2018

I'm betting it all has to do with the trigger.

Fox123 · Jan 15, 2018

That's what I am now leaning more towards.

Definition of rifle vs their binary trigger, the semi setting might be shot on release not pull.

Trumpet · Jan 17, 2018

Supposedly, FA has said it has nothing to do with the trigger. Speculation is on rifling that's not "rifling"?

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