Supreme Court Takes Major NRA Second Amendment Case from New York

Cruacious · Mar 20, 2020

ericahls said:
I am trying to have a glass half full optimism Let's face it, if they did rule in favor on Monday, image the fun watching all those NY liberals heads explode. It would be more fun to watch than the day after the 2016 election.

Now you, sir, are a liar. NOTHING was more meme worthy or satisfying than watching the fallout of the 2016 election. However, I must admit, this would be a nice second in my book.

Blacksmith101 · Mar 20, 2020

Cruacious said:
Now you, sir, are a liar. NOTHING was more meme worthy or satisfying than watching the fallout of the 2016 election. However, I must admit, this would be a nice second in my book.

It depends on how broad the decision is, broad enough and actual heads will explode.

teratos · Mar 20, 2020

Gotta wonder if the Covid-19 aftermath will consciously or subconsciously affect thinking on guns/transport/carry in a lot of folks, even SCOTUS Justices.

Occam · Mar 20, 2020

teratos said:
Gotta wonder if the Covid-19 aftermath will consciously or subconsciously affect thinking on guns/transport/carry in a lot of folks, even SCOTUS Justices.

I think, on this topic, COVID-19 will be like alcohol. A small number of people will - while under the influence of panic or just general unease - have a revelation. But most people will have their baked-in world views more loudly or toxically on display because their inhibitions will be suppressed, like with alcohol, by stress.

I can see the grabber types doubling down on their supposed fear: if they’re willing to infringe on the 2A under everyday circumstances because they’re afraid of law abiding people being armed, imagine how righteously they’ll assert that nobody can be trusted with guns when a crisis has people freaking out.

Kharn · Mar 20, 2020

Occam said:
I think, on this topic, COVID-19 will be like alcohol. A small number of people will - while under the influence of panic or just general unease - have a revelation. But most people will have their baked-in world views more loudly or toxically on display because their inhibitions will be suppressed, like with alcohol, by stress.

I can see the grabber types doubling down on their supposed fear: if they’re willing to infringe on the 2A under everyday circumstances because they’re afraid of law abiding people being armed, imagine how righteously they’ll assert that nobody can be trusted with guns when a crisis has people freaking out.

In vino veritas.

Kharn · Mar 20, 2020

ericahls said:
I am trying to have a glass half full optimism Let's face it, if they did rule in favor on Monday, image the fun watching all those NY liberals heads explode. It would be more fun to watch than the day after the 2016 election.

While they're fleeing to the Hamptons and straining to understand NPR over the sound of the potholes.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Mar 20, 2020

teratos said:
Gotta wonder if the Covid-19 aftermath will consciously or subconsciously affect thinking on guns/transport/carry in a lot of folks, even SCOTUS Justices.

SCOTUS justices get Supreme Court Police protection for the asking. A former LEO colleague performed as driver and protection for retired Justice David Souter when he was on the court. That was prior to 9/11...it could be changed now how protection is handled for them.

PowPow · Mar 20, 2020

I see this in RGB's future...

... with possibility for a tragic ending.

JMangle · Mar 26, 2020

I hope, which I try to avoid, that all this craziness with some states banning gun sales, certain justices see the importance of rulings that would strengthen the power of the Second. Especially justices that are on record believing that gun rights are disfavored rights.

fred55 · Mar 26, 2020

JMangle said:
I hope, which I try to avoid, that all this craziness with some states banning gun sales, certain justices see the importance of rulings that would strengthen the power of the Second. Especially justices that are on record believing that gun rights are disfavored rights.

Second Amendment doesn’t need strengthening, it needs enforcement. imho fred55

Master_P · Mar 26, 2020

teratos said:
Gotta wonder if the Covid-19 aftermath will consciously or subconsciously affect thinking on guns/transport/carry in a lot of folks, even SCOTUS Justices.

Voluntary cessation was an argument Clement put forward as to why the case is not moot. Cuomo closed gun stores as "non-essential" during the Wuhan flu emergency.

Is there some way SCOTUS could leverage NYs closure of gun stores to keep the case alive?

E.Shell · Mar 26, 2020

JMangle said:
I hope, which I try to avoid, that all this craziness with some states banning gun sales, certain justices see the importance of rulings that would strengthen the power of the Second. Especially justices that are on record believing that gun rights are disfavored rights.

It's funny how everyone thinks that SCOTUS is obligated to do the right thing and is not somehow part of the problem.. :lol:

Makes it seem like this is their very first 2A case (again) and they never had a chance to clearly and firmly put ALL of this crap to rest before. They won't even enforce their own prior, incredibly "narrow" rulings. :sad20:

Bob A · Mar 26, 2020

E.Shell said:
It's funny how everyone thinks that SCOTUS is obligated to do the right thing and is not somehow part of the problem..

Makes it seem like this is their very first 2A case (again) and they never had a chance to clearly and firmly put ALL of this crap to rest before. They won't even enforce their own prior, incredibly "narrow" rulings.

Some of them are part of the problem, but it may be that they're the only solution remaining.

Muleskinner · Mar 26, 2020

Bob A said:
Some of them are part of the problem, but it may be that they're the only solution remaining.

They are NOT the only solution remaining unless you and 120 million others are willing to let the government disarm you.

whistlersmother · Mar 26, 2020

E.Shell said:
It's funny how everyone thinks that SCOTUS is obligated to do the right thing and is not somehow part of the problem..

Makes it seem like this is their very first 2A case (again) and they never had a chance to clearly and firmly put ALL of this crap to rest before. They won't even enforce their own prior, incredibly "narrow" rulings.

Its in any court's best interest to limit the right to keep and bear. The court's power comes from the very state that the 2A warned against. Why would any court allow the very thing that would overthrow their power?

This ruling will be very narrowly limited. My guess is narrowly limited to get Robert's buy-in. He is the new Kennedy on the court.

Fedora · Mar 26, 2020

This ruling will be very narrowly limited.

Not a lawyer, but I note there are nine held cases. Six concern "Bear" and the remaining three address some aspect of "Infringed". In this case, they impact commerce in guns. Even a narrow and limited decision that addresses the questions in each of the held cases would please me right down to my socks.

randomuser · Mar 26, 2020

Thinking that someone who gets paid by gov is going to be your savior against gov is funny.

ironpony · Mar 27, 2020

randomuser said:
Thinking that someone who gets paid by gov is going to be your savior against gov is funny.

Yes, quite comical.

Next up, Term Limits. Hahahahaha.

Fedora · Mar 27, 2020

For your consideration:

Dec 21, 2018: Trump's asylum ban rejected
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...rejects-trump-s-asylum-ban-5-4-ruling-n951051

Oct 10, 2019: Voting against Voting Rights Act
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/supreme-court-voting-rights-act-obliteration.html

June 27, 2019: Supreme Court votes against partisan gerrymandering.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/politics/supreme-court-gerrymandering.html

Blacksmith101 · Mar 27, 2020

Just shows how important it is to get Trump reelected so he can appoint a few more right thinking Justices.

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