Duracoat and Rustoleum

Peppersavage111 · Mar 7, 2017

Hi All,

I'm coating a shotgun with Duracoat flat black for a protective base layer and I plan on using Rustoleum camo on top of the Duracoat for my camo patterning (because the rustoleum would be a more seasonal application and strips easier than duracoat).

My question is does anyone know how long I have to wait after spraying the Duracoat before I cover it with the base color for my camo (khaki)?

I'm not that familiar with paint chemicals but Duracoat says the firearm can be used 24hours after coating. Is it safe to cover the duracoat with rustoleum khaki after that amount of time, or even 48 hours? I'm not sure if covering the duracoat with rustoleum would compromise the duracoat curing process...

thanks.

j_h_smith · Mar 7, 2017

http://www.lauerweaponry.com/?fuseaction=page.display&page_id=22

Peppersavage111 · Mar 7, 2017

Thanks for being so helpful........

As a matter of fact, I had already done extensive searching and also called Lauer (the people I've spoken to seemed to be confused) about this process which is why I've come to the forum to look for actual advice. I was hoping for someone with real world experience with a similar process to help me out. Or at least someone intelligent enough to explain the curing process with this chemical interaction instead of just posting links to FAQ sections of manufacturer websites.

So again, is there anyone who can offer some actual input? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.

Matlack · Mar 7, 2017

The answer was there in plain English.

When is DuraCoat® fully cured?
DuraCoat® is dry to the touch in 20 minutes, can be handled in 1 hour and is ready for use overnight. Although DuraCoat® will gain most of its final hardness, elasticity and chemical resistance over a 2-3 week period, time will continue to enhance DuraCoat's characteristics over a lifetime. DuraCoat®, like fine wine, gets better with age. As we say, "DuraCoat® wears in, not out."

2-3 weeks for a full cure. It needs to fully cure before you apply anything over it.

Peppersavage111 · Mar 7, 2017

Ok... maybe I should rephrase my question.

Can I apply a full coat of Rustoleum over Duracoat without inhibiting Duracoat cure time or compromising the durability of the finish?

Will the Duracoat not cure if its covered? Is it dependent on oxygen to cure?

iH8DemLibz · Mar 7, 2017

If DuraCoat doesn't have a kick starter catalyst to assist drying and has to rely on evaporation only, I would wait several months before applying anything over it.

Dry to the touch and dry enough to handle doesn't mean it's dry through and through.

And what are you using to strip the Rustoleum that won't also strip the DuraCoat?

Peppersavage111 · Mar 7, 2017

Duracoat does have a catalyst. I would use something to the potency of mineral spirits or acetone to remove the Rustoleum down the road and only after camo layers have collected for at least 2-3 seasons.

BTW, thank you for the productive response.

iH8DemLibz · Mar 7, 2017

Peppersavage111 said:
Duracoat does have a catalyst. I would use something to the potency of mineral spirits or acetone to remove the Rustoleum down the road and only after camo layers have collected for at least 2-3 seasons.

BTW, thank you for the productive response.

The difference between mineral spirits and acetone is the difference between a soap box racer and a quarter mile dragster.

Mineral spirits will not remove dried paint. Acetone most definitely will. But acetone may also remove the DuraCoat. You'll need a paint stripper of some sort.

Your best bet is to make up some test plates. Make them out of steel. Prime them, DuraCoat them, and paint them. Then try different Rustoleum removal methods.

To be honest, your bestest best bet for a weather proof base coat would be Parkerizing. Paint adheres well to Parkerizing. And Parkerizing can't be removed with stripping products.

Ranchero50 · Mar 7, 2017

Ditto. In all honesty, I'd probably skip the Duracoat and just paint the thing after a basic bluing. If you let the paint cure untouched for a couple weeks it'll hold up well enough. 10/22's and Marlin Model 60's are just painted from the factory with cheap lacquer and lamp cured. They seem to hold up fine.

ironpony · Mar 8, 2017

My first thought is to wait a few months for the Duracoat to release its curing process agents or skip the Duracoat. My experience with painting furniture with Rustoleum is if you apply a second coat within a week the second coat is pushed off by gasses from the first coat. another week and Poly. I have no experience with Duracoat though.

I'm just jumping in here because I have had between coat timings go bad ... no fun.

outrider58 · Mar 8, 2017

Duracoat, bake, done.

Duracoat and Rustoleum

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

Peppersavage111

Member

j_h_smith

Ultimate Member

Peppersavage111

Member

Matlack

Scribe

Peppersavage111

Member

iH8DemLibz

When All Else Fails.

Peppersavage111

Member

iH8DemLibz

When All Else Fails.

Ranchero50

Ultimate Member

ironpony

Member

outrider58

Eats Bacon Raw

Users who are viewing this thread

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Latest threads

Forum statistics

Share this page