HBO’s Vice “How A Corrupt Baltimore Police Task Force Tainted Thousands of Cases”

Rob R. · Jan 27, 2018

Just watched this episode posted tonight

DSBartender · Jan 27, 2018

WOW

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fred2207 · Jan 27, 2018

DSBartender said:
WOW

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Yep, that s%$t has been going on for years, only the names have changed... :sad20:

DSBartender · Jan 27, 2018

fred2207 said:
Yep, that s%$t has been going on for years, only the names have changed...

The culture within the department will have to change. That will take completely new leadership, transparency, and oversight. #GoodLuck

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3paul10 · Jan 27, 2018

That's a sad and troubling story. Hopefully they fix their problems. Unfortunately, some will use that story as "proof" all cops are bad. Again.

Doco Overboard · Jan 27, 2018

Yeah that would suck if you were inadvertently affected by some crooked BPD. I still don't have a lot of sympathy for a guy that had 20,000 in dope money lifted from him by some cops. The lesson of the story here for me is stay the hell out of their way.
I think anytime you have to be stopped and questioned by any law officer you have to take some real moral inventory or do some self check. I also think the filmmakers may be doing a little bomb-throwing creating controversy for the citizens plight but the irony is fascinating.
A little gangster does as gangster is.

W2D · Jan 27, 2018

The culture within the department will have to change. That will take completely new leadership, transparency, and oversight. #GoodLuck

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Good luck, indeed.

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DSBartender · Jan 28, 2018

3paul10 said:
That's a sad and troubling story. Hopefully they fix their problems. Unfortunately, some will use that story as "proof" all cops are bad. Again.

This will definitely erode any trust between the Citizens of Baltimore and the Police that serve them. I believe in another thread someone mentioned the Baltimore police force can’t keep good quality cops because those folks can have a better career in the State police or surrounding areas. It’s simply not worth the stress and risk to work there.

Until and unless all parties involved find some common ground to build from the situation will remain the same.

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Robert2888 · Jan 28, 2018

As everyone loves to say, you get the politicians you deserve you also get the cops you deserve.

EL1227 · Jan 28, 2018

They're gonna need a new patch

The city of misdeeds, perhaps ?

namrelio · Jan 28, 2018

They should make a sequel, "How a crooked, corrupt city Government tainted a Baltimore city Police force"

joppaj · Jan 28, 2018

DSBartender said:
Until and unless all parties involved find some common ground to build from the situation will remain the same.

I don't believe there is any middle ground to be had. Frankly I view the population of Baltimore as three separate groups all competing for its future.

Group one is the highly educated, socially liberal somewhat wealthy hipster crowd. They love micro-brew beer, Fells Point and John Waters movies. They want Baltimore to be an artsy town, an East Coast version of Austin, TX. They want to eat at trendy tapas bars in old warehouses.

Group two is the urban poor. They want to smoke weed, shoot craps and drink liquor on Grandma's front steps. Maybe a dirt bike ride through the streets with their friends after that and a good riot if they can find one.

The last group is the smallest and shrinking. They're the older families in the city that rose above poverty but never left town. They're trying not to be gentrified out by the hipsters or assaulted by the other group.

BPD tries to keep a lid on all that while not paying competitive wages and with an openly hostile mayor, state's attorney and city council.

DSBartender · Jan 28, 2018

joppaj said:
I don't believe there is any middle ground to be had. Frankly I view the population of Baltimore as three separate groups all competing for its future.

Group one is the highly educated, socially liberal somewhat wealthy hipster crowd. They love micro-brew beer, Fells Point and John Waters movies. They want Baltimore to be an artsy town, an Easy Coast version of Austin, TX. They want to eat at trendy tapas bars in old warehouses.

Group two is the urban poor. They want to smoke weed, shoot craps and drink liquor on Grandma's front steps. Maybe a dirt bike ride through the streets with their friends after that and a good riot if they can find one.

The last group is the smallest and shrinking. They're the older families in the city that rose above poverty but never left town. They're trying not to be gentrified out by the hipsters or assaulted by the other group.

BPD tries to keep a lid on all that while not paying competitive wages and with an openly hostile mayor, state's attorney and city council.

Interesting view point.

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fred2207 · Jan 28, 2018

joppaj said:
I don't believe there is any middle ground to be had. Frankly I view the population of Baltimore as three separate groups all competing for its future.

Group one is the highly educated, socially liberal somewhat wealthy hipster crowd. They love micro-brew beer, Fells Point and John Waters movies. They want Baltimore to be an artsy town, an East Coast version of Austin, TX. They want to eat at trendy tapas bars in old warehouses.

Group two is the urban poor. They want to smoke weed, shoot craps and drink liquor on Grandma's front steps. Maybe a dirt bike ride through the streets with their friends after that and a good riot if they can find one.

The last group is the smallest and shrinking. They're the older families in the city that rose above poverty but never left town. They're trying not to be gentrified out by the hipsters or assaulted by the other group.

BPD tries to keep a lid on all that while not paying competitive wages and with an openly hostile mayor, state's attorney and city council.

While I agree, "BPD tries to keep a lid on it", the level and frequency of bad actors/corruption within the department has had an additional negative effect of keeping the lid on.

TexasBob · Jan 28, 2018

The Wire Part 2

chino101 · Jan 28, 2018

Here is one insiders view on what Baltimore PD is like:

Biggfoot44 · Jan 28, 2018

And to continue Joppa's theme from #12 -

You could ask buncha Balt residents , and a lot would say Police / Crim Justice system should change . The problem is they have different , opposing , contradictory ideas of what they should be .

One side wants effecent enforcement , with meaningful sentences , to take the core of bad actors out of circulation. Lower crime , fewer murders .

Other side is concerned about the nasty Police picking on the nice boys from their neighborhood . Too many Young Black Males are locked up , and it important goal for society to reduce that

So whatever steps taken 1/3 will like, 1/3 will hate, 1/3 not notice , or care ..

fred2207 · Jan 28, 2018

TexasBob said:
The Wire Part 2

Where do you think The Wire got their plots from??? :sad20:

DubTap21 · Jan 28, 2018

namrelio said:
They should make a sequel, "How a crooked, corrupt city Government tainted a Baltimore city Police force"

This

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TexasBob · Jan 28, 2018

fred2207 said:
Where do you think The Wire got their plots from???

From the normal day to day activates that fill our city streets. Some are so stupid but again fact can be stranger then faction. :cool:

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