ASA ANNOUNCES HEARING PROTECTION ACT

protegeV · Oct 22, 2015

balttigger said:
I am sure that as soon as I send my form off to the ATF, it will become an issue. I am debating on jumping on the homemade bandwagon on the $100 thread. First I have to put $$$ aside for the trust.

How much can a trust cost? I see them for under $100 all the time.

protegeV · Oct 22, 2015

While we're at it can we remove machine guns from the nfa as well. My arthritis makes it hard to pull yhe trigger more than once

thomfantomas · Oct 22, 2015

NYRangers917 said:
Man if this passes I'll for sure pick one up. Never wanted to deal with the headache and wait for a form 4

Samehere

balttigger · Oct 22, 2015

protegeV said:
How much can a trust cost? I see them for under $100 all the time.

I want to make sure I have a good one and not a cookie cutter one that won't stand up. I expect to pay another 200 or so to get a fully compliant NFA trust. There are others here that have paid twice that.

LeadSled1 · Oct 22, 2015

I believe in parts of England that suppressors are required when using a firearm. Throw that in their face

SW6906user · Oct 22, 2015

Arcamm said:
No, the antis will only say that now mass killers can shoot up an entire school without anybody being alerted.

That is just the start (the antis probably don't even know they're legal)!!

But the wait is killing me, i've been waiting on a Form 4 since April 2015.

whistlersmother · Oct 22, 2015

Personally, suppressors shouldn't even be a NICS item - still need a firearm for the thing. If you're good enough for a gun, then the suppressor should just be a off-the-shelf pay/no background check kinda thing.

SBS's and SBR's should be taken off the NFA list also and made to be simple NICS checks.

balttigger · Oct 22, 2015

whistlersmother said:
Personally, suppressors shouldn't even be a NICS item - still need a firearm for the thing. If you're good enough for a gun, then the suppressor should just be a off-the-shelf pay/no background check kinda thing.

SBS's and SBR's should be taken off the NFA list also and made to be simple NICS checks.

I agree, but a simple NICS check might alert on someone that rightfully should not have a firearm. Personally, I think the entire NFA should be done away with. I am sure there are a few people that doled out 5-digits that would see a huge loss in value of their weapons that might disagree on that part.

GTOGUNNER · Oct 22, 2015

I am surprised that the ASA would actually support this.
Suppressors in the USA are way over priced already. This would drive the cost way down and cut into profits.

Engine4 · Oct 22, 2015

GTOGUNNER said:
I am surprised that the ASA would actually support this. Suppressors in the USA are way over priced already. This would drive the cost way down and cut into profits.

But they would sell a heck of a lot more.

outrider58 · Oct 22, 2015

Inigoes said:
I do not expect to see that bill go anywhere.

The Feds like the $200 tax too much

Same thing I was thinking. :sad20:

fightinbluhen51 · Oct 22, 2015

slowpoke said:
I wonder how much the ATF spends to collect that $200 stamp revenue.

When you see the amount of paper work to get contracts, probably 3~4x in administration costs.

fightinbluhen51 · Oct 22, 2015

balttigger said:
I agree, but a simple NICS check might alert on someone that rightfully should not have a firearm. Personally, I think the entire NFA should be done away with. I am sure there are a few people that doled out 5-digits that would see a huge loss in value of their weapons that might disagree on that part.

When the timeline is long enough, everyone's return on investment is zero.

protegeV · Oct 22, 2015

GTOGUNNER said:
I am surprised that the ASA would actually support this.
Suppressors in the USA are way over priced already. This would drive the cost way down and cut into profits.

It may close their margins, but it would increase the volume exponentially.

Bob A · Oct 23, 2015

protegeV said:
It may close their margins, but it would increase the volume exponentially.

Absolutely. Without the ATF BS and paperwork and ridiculous $200 tax, I'd have a boxful of these things. So would most shooters, I believe. I'm no fan of ear-shattering noise.

Elliotte · Oct 23, 2015

protegeV said:
It may close their margins, but it would increase the volume exponentially.

And typically, with increased sales volume the manufacturer can find ways to cut costs, volume discounts on raw materials, the ability to afford better machinery that can produce more, faster, etc.

protegeV · Oct 23, 2015

Elliotte said:
And typically, with increased sales volume the manufacturer can find ways to cut costs, volume discounts on raw materials, the ability to afford better machinery that can produce more, faster, etc.

yep. economically it's a win-win

erwos · Oct 23, 2015

This could potentially open a huge new market for the firearms industry. If the tax were removed and suppressor prices fell down to $200 for a base model that did an OK job, I'd buy one for every damn rifle and threaded pistol I own, and that is a lot of guns.

fightinbluhen51 · Oct 23, 2015

erwos said:
This could potentially open a huge new market for the firearms industry. If the tax were removed and suppressor prices fell down to $200 for a base model that did an OK job, I'd buy one for every damn rifle and threaded pistol I own, and that is a lot of guns.

Yeah, I know I'd buy at least 3 cans. Two 30 cal rifle cans & 1 pistol (.45).

I'm not sure what I'd put them on, but I can figure that out.

platekiller · Oct 23, 2015

erwos said:
This could potentially open a huge new market for the firearms industry. If the tax were removed and suppressor prices fell down to $200 for a base model that did an OK job, I'd buy one for every damn rifle and threaded pistol I own, and that is a lot of guns.

That's true. I would by a few and tinker with some of the homemade stuff.

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