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Old September 9th, 2018, 10:34 AM #1
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1911 barrel markings

The one with the unitary hp is a 1918; the other is a january build 1913. This barrel ( not so good photography) has a seperated h p read by holding the pistol up and down, not sideways. Anyone have thoughts on whether one or both are original tomthe build period?
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Old September 9th, 2018, 02:11 PM #2
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Regardless whether the barrels are original or not, you should consider yourself very lucky to have the opportunity to solve this mystery!)
Sorry cannot offer an opinion that would help solve the mystery, but very anxious to hear what others have to say!)
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Without knowing S/N it sounds like they are both correct barrels.
Perpendicular H - P would be used ~25000-110000 (read "properly" if the barrel is held with chamber on left, muzzle on right)
Inline H - P would be used 110001-425000 (letters read properly if barrel is held with chamber closest to you and muzzle furthest)

"Unitary" (intertwined) HP would be correct for a 1918
AH Fox 210000 (early had H-P)-580000 if it has an "&" underneath barrel (AJ Fox)
Colt 425000-710000 if no mark underneath

So what's "The Rest of The Story?"


here's pic of the 2nd type (110001 to 425000) from S/N 150xxx
Rotate the letters 90 degrees to the left for the earlier ones (order may vary)
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Without knowing S/N it sounds like they are both correct barrels.
Perpendicular H - P would be used ~25000-110000 (read "properly" if the barrel is held with chamber on left, muzzle on right)
Inline H - P would be used 110001-425000 (letters read properly if barrel is held with chamber closest to you and muzzle furthest)

"Unitary" (intertwined) HP would be correct for a 1918
AH Fox 210000 (early had H-P)-580000 if it has an "&" underneath barrel (AJ Fox)
Colt 425000-710000 if no mark underneath

So what's "The Rest of The Story?"


here's pic of the 2nd type (110001 to 425000) from S/N 150xxx
Rotate the letters 90 degrees to the left for the earlier ones (order may vary)
i will take some better pics. The 13 from memory is 30 or 32k. So it sounds like the barrel may have come from a later pistol. I read that for the 13 the hood would have a h stamped to face the shooter and a p did not come along until later. Your post would agree with that.
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Here are some better close ups. The entwined hp is from a govt marked 5559xx serial; the other is from a 205xx early 1913. Any thoughts on whether these barrels are proper for the guns? Thanks.
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Doing some photo-magic it does look like the one in the 1913-date is an original Colt but from a little later (110001-425000) as you mentioned previously.
It won't detract that much from it, original finish on the gun is more important (at least to me).

Quick reference if you don't have the Poyer or Clawson books handy, these ranges are a little different than Poyer's.
http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/barrels.htm

I think the other barrel is correct (intertwined HP) for its S/N range.
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Somd mustangs. Very grateful, thank you for taking the time and for your expertise.
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