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Old November 21st, 2020, 11:34 AM #21
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DC was registering guns with "multiple calibers" in the caliber field even before dropping in 2012 the portion of code stating you could only posses ammo of the registered caliber.

I think it was neither H2 or H3 but rather threat of suit that changed that. H2 was a loss and h3 was 2015, the prohibition on possessing ammo other than your registration caliber was dropped in 2012 as a result of suit threat, not a specific case as far as I recall. Possessing some ammo before you had a registered gun was now allowed if engaged in training at that time as well.

So for the OP, it is not caliber of ammo possessed that is the issue, it is the accuracy of your registration card, which, under DC code, is explicitly your responsibility to ensure, not MPS's responsivity. Your card must be accurate and complete to be valid.

If you have caliber exchange kit, eg common .22 slide and mags available on dozens of makes of 9 or 40 guns, or as I do, a P320 with both 9 and 40 kit, email Hall and ask to be sent new reg that states "multiple caliber."

Also don't assume having the alternate caliber kit and not assembled in DC is ok. As the c"onstructive possession" case law is federal, meaning anywhere in the US having something that can be readily assembled at same address means you are presumed to be controlled by the net assembly -- simply having your caliber change kit at same address is "constructive possession" and the registrant, not MPD, is responsible for insuring that the registration card is accurate. It is best to request multiple caliber designation or if they are doing it, "9mm and .22 cal"

Make the request and let us know what they say. Ask toi speak to a supervisor if you get hit withresistance since the lower eschelon in that office is not exactly informed.
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Old November 21st, 2020, 11:48 AM #22
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DC was registering guns with "multiple calibers" in the caliber field even before dropping in 2012 the portion of code stating you could only posses ammo of the registered caliber.

I think it was neither H2 or H3 but rather threat of suit that changed that. H2 was a loss and h3 was 2015, the prohibition on possessing ammo other than your registration caliber was dropped in 2012 as a result of suit threat, not a specific case as far as I recall. Possessing some ammo before you had a registered gun was now allowed if engaged in training at that time as well.

So for the OP, it is not caliber of ammo possessed that is the issue, it is the accuracy of your registration card, which, under DC code, is explicitly your responsibility to ensure, not MPS's responsivity. Your card must be accurate and complete to be valid.

If you have caliber exchange kit, eg common .22 slide and mags available on dozens of makes of 9 or 40 guns, or as I do, a P320 with both 9 and 40 kit, email Hall and ask to be sent new reg that states "multiple caliber."

Also don't assume having the alternate caliber kit and not assembled in DC is ok. As the c"onstructive possession" case law is federal, meaning anywhere in the US having something that can be readily assembled at same address means you are presumed to be controlled by the net assembly -- simply having your caliber change kit at same address is "constructive possession" and the registrant, not MPD, is responsible for insuring that the registration card is accurate. It is best to request multiple caliber designation or if they are doing it, "9mm and .22 cal"

Make the request and let us know what they say. Ask toi speak to a supervisor if you get hit withresistance since the lower eschelon in that office is not exactly informed.
Thanks for that! Can you help clarify what it is I should be asking LT Hall for?

And should I elevate my issue to him? Everyone else I spoke to when I was doing my initial registration said it wasnít doable. I even asked if I could re-register the gun so I have two registrations under the same frame for different calibers.
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Old November 21st, 2020, 03:24 PM #23
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Your best bet when dealing with MPD is to get answers from Lt. Hall. I have gotten bad info from other people at MPD a few times.
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Old November 21st, 2020, 05:03 PM #24
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Thanks for that! Can you help clarify what it is I should be asking LT Hall for?

And should I elevate my issue to him? Everyone else I spoke to when I was doing my initial registration said it wasnít doable. I even asked if I could re-register the gun so I have two registrations under the same frame for different calibers.
just drop him a note with the truth.

You are considering getting/bringing into DC a .22 conversion to make target practice more affordable while keeping your ability to use 9mm for home defense mode. Ask tat your registration for that gun to be updated to be a) "9mm and .22" or b) "multiple caliber."
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just drop him a note with the truth.

You are considering getting/bringing into DC a .22 conversion to make target practice more affordable while keeping your ability to use 9mm for home defense mode. Ask tat your registration for that gun to be updated to be a) "9mm and .22" or b) "multiple caliber."
Thanks! I sent him a note stating such. Will let everyone know what we hear
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Seems like many initially missed the part he said "DC MPD"
Unfortunately anyone people needing that info may not read through 3 pages before getting the correct info.....
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Your best bet when dealing with MPD is to get answers from Lt. Hall. I have gotten bad info from other people at MPD a few times.
LT Hall is no longer at gun registration section. He got promoted and transferred. FYI
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Old November 21st, 2020, 06:54 PM #28
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I'm a little unclear what you are talking about. You took the gun to the mSP for the transfer? The serial number is on the frame once they get the serial number go ahead and do whatever you want with a caliber conversion. The 7 day wait is standard and I haven't heard of any hold ups on that since the 2013 debacle.
You are talking about MD, DC is difference. When you register your gun or apply for the conceal carry, you have to follow the policy ,if not your ccw will be revoked. For example: carry your pistol without holster or hollow point ammo is a violation. Don't ask me why, this is their policy
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That's so weird.

He just approved a rifle for me yesterday that was mistakingly denied back in September and I've been working on its approvel with him since then.

He never mentioned any promotion and moving on.

Where'd he go?
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That's so weird.

He just approved a rifle for me yesterday that was mistakingly denied back in September and I've been working on its approvel with him since then.

He never mentioned any promotion and moving on.

Where'd he go?
See what he says. If not, Iíll just keep the 22 exchange and ammo in VA.
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