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Old June 29th, 2020, 12:55 AM #41
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No, what we got was a reversible executive branch action on one narrow thing when, in the wake of two hugely high profile mass shootings, we were otherwise about to get much MUCH worse actual legislation. Legislation that would have included stuff beyond just the bump stocks. After Vegas, it was going to happen. It got dumbed down and narrowed down to the least bad thing it could have been compared to what there was strong House and enough Senate support to do as actual law.

What happened behind the scenes, to limit the unavoidable damage, was very well documented. Not sure why people forget the relevant details.


The continuous barrage of media Trump-hatred, along with the distortions, half-truths and outright lies, tends to bury rational thought as peoples' minds are swamped with ever more ridiculous vituperation.

Meanwhile, the No Shades Of Grey people can see things only in black and white; anything that isn't absolutely for them is absolutely against them.

Both sides are guilty of this closed-minded thinking. It's a natural result of being buried in BSm 24/7/365.
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Old June 29th, 2020, 07:09 AM #42
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The continuous barrage of media Trump-hatred, along with the distortions, half-truths and outright lies, tends to bury rational thought as peoples' minds are swamped with ever more ridiculous vituperation.

Meanwhile, the No Shades Of Grey people can see things only in black and white; anything that isn't absolutely for them is absolutely against them.

Both sides are guilty of this closed-minded thinking. It's a natural result of being buried in BSm 24/7/365.
Nice post Bob A. So much truth.
I learned a new word today.
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Old June 29th, 2020, 07:13 AM #43
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Nice post Bob A. So much truth.
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Ridiculous vituperation.

Exceeded the MDS syllabic pentameter. May be a new record.

Almost ten in two. Wow. I’m humbled.
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Old June 29th, 2020, 09:18 AM #44
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We’ve been fighting a losing battle IMO. I see no need to accelerate the pace by playing into democrats hands and infighting with one of the lobbies they fear the most. As long as the NRA irritates and obstructs Democrats, I will support them.

And let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water. The NRA trains instructors and RSOs, coaches, etc., to a national standard, they help in range developmemt, sponsoring and running matches, all manner of things that we should all support. If the efforts of the NRA- ILA or NRA-PVF run counter to your interests, don’t support them. Personally, I wouldn’t give another nickel to GOA. In my opinion all they do is bitch and moan and hurl dirt at the NRA and others that don’t bitch and moan as loudly as they do. The biggest bang for the buck, again IMO, is the SAF and grassroots organizations like MSI.
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I'm ashamed that half the country and almost the entire media/academia complex is aggressively pursuing a meat puppet candidate and puppeteers so wildly, insanely worse (than Trump) that we have to even contemplate how awful them winning would be. We dodged a bullet with that in 2016, and need to do it again. I would love a philosopher king type genius orator with liberty on his mind as our candidate, but that person doesn't exist (or at least, isn't willing to have his or her life and family ruined by the media). So we do what we must, and decide we really don't take Trump's manners personally. The people on the left shrieking out their TDS are the ones who take it personally, like children always do.

No chief executive is or should be my moral guide, or my personal inspiration, or the person who tells me how or what to do. It's an important gig running one branch of the government, not my daddy. As it happens, considering who and what wants to take over that job, we're fortunate to have a guy who really doesn't care what most people think about him personally. And who is just trying to get shit done despite historically unprecedented - even criminal - push back and sabotage. I don't have to feel personal shame at tolerating his shortcomings, because I didn't make a bad call voting to prevent the Clinton machine from retaking the White House.

Yea, I keep forgetting. "moral character is not a requirement for political leadership". s%#t...
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Yea, I keep forgetting. "moral character is not a requirement for political leadership". s%#t...
You’re pretending to confuse a moral stance (on, say, continuing endless wars or fighting Chinese economic espionage or naming constitutionalist justices or tackling prison reform etc) with annoying mannerisms. Not fooling anyone.
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Yea, I keep forgetting. "moral character is not a requirement for political leadership". s%#t...
I don't know if the rules have changed but, back in the day, the Federal Aviation Regulations stated that to hold an Airline Transport Rating, you had to be of good moral character.

Imagine that, people responsible for other people's lives had to be of good moral character but congress critters, who have a great effect over people's lives don't.
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I just donated $100 to SAF and GOA last month. I'll never give NRA a cent until they acknowledge their corruption and restructure.
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I have not been a member for a very long time and only joined last year because I was planning to shoot @ AGC. Never could put the fee together for the range badge due to budget constraints so it ended up being a waste of money, IMO.

The NRA has been selling out it's members for at least the last 50 years while it's leadership has done very well for itself! It was a great concept that has failed because of corruption which finds it's way into anything involving money and power!

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Ollie North was spot on.
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