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youknowit · Aug 13, 2019

My friend has this-

"-W.M.D NIB coated(nickel iron boron) upper
-NIB coated fail ZERO bolt carrier group
-80% lower Palmetto standard trigger group
-Ego grip
-Magpul acs MIL-SPEC collapsible/adjustable stock and buffer tube w/ heavier weight to help cycle the bigger round
-barrel is 16" with the carbine gas tube placement pretty sure its S.S.
- UTG ULTRA PRO slim rail M-LOK which is 15" I believe
-UTG pro red/green 1x optic

Oh and the barrel has the feed lugs specifically milled for 7.62 so there is ZERO operational jamming."

Can i legally possess this? Hes moving to California and wants to sell it but i don't even know if its legal to have... Im new to this style of weapon and the rules and regs that follow it.

Yes i searched but again i have no idea.

Also if it was legal to possess what do you think of the weapon?

Allen65 · Aug 13, 2019

I am assuming it's a direct impingement, 5.56 AR-clone when I say this. If it's not, ignore what I'm saying about legality.

If barrel is not advertised as or stamped "HBAR" or "heavy barrel", no, you can't legally possess it in MD because you would have obtained it after 1 October, 2013.

That upper doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard of. I wasn't aware it was metallurgically possible to NIB plate aluminum.

Rab1515 · Aug 13, 2019

is this a 7.62 AR? if so, then it would be legal for him to sell it to you (amusing you are not prohibited), although not advisable. 80%'s, although not illegal to sell, can put the original owner in the position of defending that the firearm was not made to be sold if someone decides they want to give you or your friend a hard time.

rbird7282 · Aug 13, 2019

Was this built on an 80% lower? Is it a complete gun?
If so, I believe he needs to engrave a serial number in it before selling it but I’m not 100% sure

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Allen65 · Aug 13, 2019

rbird7282 said:
Was this built on an 80% lower? Is it a complete gun?
If so, I believe he needs to engrave a serial number in it before selling it but I’m not 100% sure

IIRC for legal xfer it needs to be mark IAW 27 CFR 478.92(a) and 479.102(a) with S/N, model, caliber, and manufacturer data.

dblas · Aug 13, 2019

rbird7282 said:
Was this built on an 80% lower? Is it a complete gun?
If so, I believe he needs to engrave a serial number in it before selling it but I’m not 100% sure

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Allen65 said:
IIRC for legal xfer it needs to be mark IAW 27 CFR 478.92(a) and 479.102(a) with S/N, model, caliber, and manufacturer data.

Any firearm made from an 80% for personal use, that is later sold, DOES NOT need to be marked with a serial number or any other information, per the ATF.

27 CFR 478.92(a) and 479.102(a) deal with licensed manufacturers and licensed importers, of which a person that makes a firearm for personal use, is not either.

youknowit · Aug 13, 2019

yes its 7.62x39. complete gun. Do i have to go to an FFL to buy it? I trust him and have known him for 20 years or so. I have a clearance and didnt want to risk anything with that part of my job.

Rab1515 · Aug 13, 2019

youknowit said:
yes its 7.62x39. complete gun. Do i have to go to an FFL to buy it? I trust him and have known him for 20 years or so. I have a clearance and didnt want to risk anything with that part of my job.

No FFL required if you are both residents of the same state and barrel is 16"+

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