WV permitless-carry legislation receiving misinformation

OnTarget · Feb 25, 2015

From NRA-ILA:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...ing-spread-about-permitless-carry-legislation

BUFF7MM · Feb 25, 2015

The email I got yesterday from WVCDL showed some info on the hearings that pretty much had the sheriff'so association speechless. Il see if I can find the email.

BUFF7MM · Feb 25, 2015

Here's one of the emails:
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact...54aa9&ch=83bbe9d0-4ebe-11e3-bbee-d4ae52754aa9

OnTarget · Feb 25, 2015

Buff:

It passed the 1st reading today. Two more to go.

BUFF7MM · Feb 25, 2015

OnTarget said:
Buff:

It passed the 1st reading today. Two more to go.

Good deal, my family lives there and I might be tricking that way myself in a few years.

OnTarget · Feb 27, 2015

SB347 has PASSED the WV Senate with NO AMENDMENTS! It now moves to the House!

http://www.wvva.com/story/28221582/...bill-to-not-require-concealed-handgun-permits

BUFF7MM · Feb 27, 2015

Excellent, I love seeing good legislation move forward.

swinokur · Feb 27, 2015

Proof that educated and smart aren't even close to the same thing. Maybe the elitists in Anapolis will one day take note. Doubtful though. Hubris can blind. Especially liberal, educated people who think they are smarter than the rest of us.

Good news WV.

Mr H · Feb 27, 2015

This is hopeful news.

DaemonAssassin · Feb 27, 2015

Holy crap!!! Fingers crossed on this one!!!!

swinokur · Mar 8, 2015

update:

[FONT=&quot]3-22 Carry (SB347) Passes House Judiciary[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]WVCDL members and supporters, thanks to your efforts, 3-22 (constitutional or permitless) carry has passed a major legislative hurdle. It passed the House Judiciary Committee today by a vote of 21-3.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Multiple amendments designed to poison the bill were shot down on 16-8 votes.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The bill is a committee substitute, and there are some changes from the senate version. So I will provide a summary of the bill as it stands now.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If the bill passes in its current form:

- The CHL licensing system remains completely intact so that we may take advantage of reciprocity agreements and carry in other states.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]- Anyone over the age of 21 may carry openly or concealed without paying fees and obtaining a Concealed Handgun License, provided they are not prohibited from owning firearms.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]- Anyone over the age of 18 who is a member of the Armed Forces, Armed Forces Reserves, or National Guard may carry openly or concealed without paying fees and obtaining a Concealed Handgun License[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]- The prohibitions of openly carrying a loaded handgun in a car, or in the woods of the state are removed. This will now be permissible without the "gotchas" in the Natural Resources laws.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]- A longarm will be considered unloaded in a vehicle (thus legal) as long as the magazine is removed, and the chamber is clear. Meaning, you can't be charged with poaching for having a detached mag with some rounds in it.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]- If a sheriff wrongfully denies your CHL, you may obtain reasonable court costs and fees if you take your appeal to Circuit Court and win your case.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]- If you move to another county, the Sheriff must issue you a new CHL with your new license, and your original expiration date for a fee of $5.00[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]This bill is a HUGE win for West Virginians if we can get it to the governor in its current form. Stay tuned as it heads for a vote on the floor of the House.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Please contact your Delegate and ask them to support SB347!

http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001040R...J96f31LT3eiyqv4kk0e0uZg_WVnGGDBCtgqzEwcnnZQ==[/FONT]

Minuteman · Mar 8, 2015

Wow, that's awesome!

There are now I think five states that are Constituional carry? Plus Montana practically is too, except for cities.

Why can't we have a simple, clean set of gun laws like this? Prosecute people for criminal behavior, not for carrying a firearm because it's otherwise not possible to tell the good guys from the bad guys. Real simple... West Virginia now gets it.

Norton · Mar 8, 2015

- The prohibitions of openly carrying a loaded handgun in a car, or in the woods of the state are removed. This will now be permissible without the "gotchas" in the Natural Resources laws.

This has been a huge wish list item for me, personally given the nature of how I spend my time in WV. Glad to see it's coming to fruition.

Uncle Duke · Mar 8, 2015

Aptly named. "Almost Heaven."

What a breath of fresh air!

BUFF7MM · Mar 8, 2015

My mother, brother, and sister live in Hampshire and Hardy counties and I spend a lot of time there so I'm stoked.

Uncle Duke · Mar 8, 2015

Buff7mm said:
My mother, brother, and sister live in Hampshire and Hardy counties and I spend a lot of time there so I'm stoked.

Spent many an hour there hunting, literally on the Hampshire and Hardy County line. Many good times and many good people there! I hope they fare well here.

press1280 · Mar 8, 2015

One note to keep in mind-the original bill was 18 y/o and up. The House judiciary amended up to 21 and over (for CC;OC is still 18). While it can be changed back to 18, time is of the essence and trying to get the amendment removed could blow the whole thing.
WVCDL appears to be doing the smart thing and proceeding to get the bill passed, and maybe next year get the age reduced to 18 for CC and/or reduce the CCW permit fees.
It's outstanding news and if other states (KS,NH,ME) can get their bills through then we'll have more Constitutional Carry states than May-Issue. I'm feeling the beginnings of another wave just like the shall-issue wave in the 1990's.

press1280 · Mar 8, 2015

swinokur said:
IIRC Montana permitless carry is for residents only.

They need to get rid of that Governor, he's the only reason it hasn't already been signed into law.

swinokur · Mar 8, 2015

Wyoming permitless carry is for residents only IIRC.

swinokur · Mar 8, 2015

press1280 said:
They need to get rid of that Governor, he's the only reason it hasn't already been signed into law.

I was wrong. As stated, Montana is permitless outside cities. I had it confuse with Wyoming which is residents only.

back to our scheduled thread.

apologies

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