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Old June 7th, 2021, 03:22 PM #1
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ATF Coming After Firearms with Stabilizing Braces

BREAKING NEWS: ATF Coming After Firearms with Stabilizing Braces



Link to ATF Proposed Rule Change For Stabilizing Braces
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I read the whole thing, and am pretty sure the wording and scoring system is designed to make virtually every pistol with a brace a sbr.

I mean, you get dinged for having buis on the gun as if that is somehow relevant in making a determination (or even relevant to the brace discussion in general).
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Language says rule would NOT affect braces objectively designed to conform to the arm for stability as opposed to those that are butt stocks.

I’m not sure I’ve seen a brace yet that didn’t make a provision for being strapped to your arm to help with stability because of your, you know, sore elbow and carpal tunnel syndrome and whatnot.

I mean, mine has a split rubber thingy and a Velcro strap that … pretty much would fit to my forearm when I’m having fitness problems with my right arm. I got it because of, um, a family history of tennis elbow and injurious beer stein lifting accidents. Objectively speaking. Otherwise that twelve pound CZ Scorpion Micro pistol would be hard to handle during joint healing episodes and the physical therapy sessions I do once a month at AGC, starting in Action Bay #4.
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I read the whole thing, and am pretty sure the wording and scoring system is designed to make virtually every pistol with a brace a sbr.

I mean, you get dinged for having buis on the gun as if that is somehow relevant in making a determination (or even relevant to the brace discussion in general).
Their next rule change will be to make any pistol with a feature they deem "evil" an NFA item, braced or not.

Also the ATF claims that this rule change is to eliminate any vague or arbitrary language in their determination process for braces. So what do they do, they make the determination process even more vague and arbitrary. Makes total sense.
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Language says rule would NOT affect braces objectively designed to conform to the arm for stability as opposed to those that are butt stocks.

Iím not sure Iíve seen a brace yet that didnít make a provision for being strapped to your arm to help with stability because of your, you know, sore elbow and carpal tunnel syndrome and whatnot.

I mean, mine has a split rubber thingy and a Velcro strap that Ö pretty much would fit to my forearm when Iím having fitness problems with my right arm. I got it because of, um, a family history of tennis elbow and injurious beer stein lifting accidents. Objectively speaking. Otherwise that twelve pound CZ Scorpion Micro pistol would be hard to handle during joint healing episodes and the physical therapy sessions I do once a month at AGC, starting in Action Bay #4.
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I always thought they were butt-ugly and made guns look like polio crutches, personally.
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I always thought they were butt-ugly and made guns look like polio crutches, personally.
True. But guess what: it's a lot of fun to shoot a short little PCC in sub-gun mode without having to do the SBR Paperwork Of Insanity.

Uh, what I meant was, I'm glad that I'm able to overcome my disability and shoot my recreational target pistol with less acute pain and a great increase in safety for myself and those around me. Yeah, that's what I meant.
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The lack of a tax- free amnesty shows they think they can mushroom stamp the owners of three million guns (somehow eight million braces confirmed sold by the largest manufacturers results in only three million braced pistols) and not concede any ground.

How long until the Sixth Circuit steps in to tell them Chevron Deference yet again didn't apply to criminal law, and issues a nationwide injunction?
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