What to do for NFA items when moving?

mtb · Jan 24, 2016

I am moving within MD and own a machine gun and supressor for it. Do I have to update my address with the state? BATFE? Where/how do I do this if necessary?

mtb · Jan 24, 2016

Anyone?

StantonCree · Jan 24, 2016

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/rpt/2009-R-0020.htm

Last sentence under the NFA section says yes

Keep in mind I am NOT a NFA kind of guy

5.56blaster · Jan 24, 2016

You can do a change of address with BATFE but I think its only needed if you moving it out of state and Md. Will see it on your yearly registration. Its been awhile for me. I would say call someone at the agencies that are involved for updated info.

rsideout · Jan 24, 2016

For ATF:
Fill out a 5320.20 and indicate your new address.
In Box 2. Firearms to be returned to original location. Check NO
In Box 3. Dates firearms to be away......... Just indicate the dates in transit.
In box 5. Reason for transport of Firearm (Example: Permanent change of address) Indicate that you are moving and this is your new address.
The rest of the form is pretty straight forward.

For MSP:
I would just indicate your new address when you do your annual registration form this Spring.

Doctor_M · Jan 24, 2016

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that you have to notify MSP within 24 hours of a change in address for Class III. When I moved, I called them and they said just put a letter in the mail to the Firearms Registration Division indicating the new address and then update it on the next registration.

mtb · Jan 24, 2016

Alright thanks, will get that done.

mtb · Jan 25, 2016

Doctor_M said:
I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that you have to notify MSP within 24 hours of a change in address for Class III. When I moved, I called them and they said just put a letter in the mail to the Firearms Registration Division indicating the new address and then update it on the next registration.

I'm seeing that you have to register it with MSP within 24 hours of first receiving it... but I'm not able to find anything about moving.

I'll give them a call tomorrow since they're not around today.

Ken

j_h_smith · Jan 25, 2016

5.56blaster said:
You can do a change of address with BATFE but I think its only needed if you moving it out of state and Md. Will see it on your yearly registration. Its been awhile for me. I would say call someone at the agencies that are involved for updated info.

Nope, I had to do the change of address when I moved from Baltimore Co to Hazzard Co. There was a thread talking about this some time ago. I have no idea where it is, nor how to do a finite search on this matter.

j_h_smith · Jan 25, 2016

rsideout said:
For ATF:
Fill out a 5320.20 and indicate your new address.
In Box 2. Firearms to be returned to original location. Check NO
In Box 3. Dates firearms to be away......... Just indicate the dates in transit.
In box 5. Reason for transport of Firearm (Example: Permanent change of address) Indicate that you are moving and this is your new address.
The rest of the form is pretty straight forward.

For MSP:
I would just indicate your new address when you do your annual registration form this Spring.

That's the information I was given. Exactly!

Jerry M · Jan 25, 2016

mtb said:
I'm seeing that you have to register it with MSP within 24 hours of first receiving it... but I'm not able to find anything about moving.

I'll give them a call tomorrow since they're not around today.

Ken

Go to MSP Licensing Division in person without the firearm, but with all information. Register it or get the full name of the trooper you speak to at that meeting.

Good luck

Jerry

Hawkeye · Jan 25, 2016

Doctor_M said:
I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that you have to notify MSP within 24 hours of a change in address for Class III.

That's "machine guns" only though, right? MD doesn't keep a specific database of other NFA stuff, right?

rsideout · Jan 25, 2016

Doctor_M said:
I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that you have to notify MSP within 24 hours of a change in address for Class III. When I moved, I called them and they said just put a letter in the mail to the Firearms Registration Division indicating the new address and then update it on the next registration.

Hawkeye said:
That's "machine guns" only though, right? MD doesn't keep a specific database of other NFA stuff, right?

That 24 hours is for initial receipt of MG's only. There is no initial or annual registration of other NFA items.

ericoak · Jan 25, 2016

mpdc4511 said:
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/rpt/2009-R-0020.htm

Last sentence under the NFA section says yes

Keep in mind I am NOT a NFA kind of guy

That the first time I have ever seen that from a government website, and that is a post from 2009. Everything else I have seen says the opposite, only interstate moves require notification.

Here is the law. It has been amended several times but Sec 11 is where interstate transportation violation occurs.

Sec 11. It shall be unlawful for any person who is required to register as provided in sec 5 hereof and who shall not have so registered, or any other person who has not in his possession a stamp-affixed order as provided in sec 4 hereof, to ship, carry, or deliver any firearm in interstate commerce.

http://legisworks.org/sal/48/stats/STATUTE-48-Pg1236.pdf

I am not a lawyer.

CHEF · May 18, 2016

rsideout said:
For ATF:
Fill out a 5320.20 and indicate your new address.
In Box 2. Firearms to be returned to original location. Check NO
In Box 3. Dates firearms to be away......... Just indicate the dates in transit.
In box 5. Reason for transport of Firearm (Example: Permanent change of address) Indicate that you are moving and this is your new address.
The rest of the form is pretty straight forward.

For MSP:
I would just indicate your new address when you do your annual registration form this Spring.

Does this apply to MG's only or do I have to do this for a SBR/suppressor?
I am moving (not out of the county) and can't get a clear answer.
Thanks.

dogbone · May 20, 2016

CHEF said:
Does this apply to MG's only or do I have to do this for a SBR/suppressor?
I am moving (not out of the county) and can't get a clear answer.
Thanks.

I'm not a lawyer but this guy appears to be:

http://johnpierceesq.com/what-do-i-need-to-do-regarding-my-nfa-trust-when-i-move/

Cliff Notes:
Report your change of address, even for an intrastate move, on a Form 5320.20.

The Form 5320.20 is required for interstate movement of a machine gun, SBR, or SBS, but not for a suppressor or AOW. Might be a good idea to do one for all items just to keep your registry info updated.

rsideout · May 20, 2016

dogbone said:
I'm not a lawyer but this guy appears to be:

http://johnpierceesq.com/what-do-i-need-to-do-regarding-my-nfa-trust-when-i-move/

Cliff Notes:
Report your change of address, even for an intrastate move, on a Form 5320.20.

The Form 5320.20 is required for interstate movement of a machine gun, SBR, or SBS, but not for a suppressor or AOW. Might be a good idea to do one for all items just to keep your registry info updated.

Correct. I never do a 5320.20 for temporary transport of a suppressor as it is not required. However, some people do as an extra layer of coverage. If I was making a permanent move, then I would probably submit a 5320.20.

OnTarget · May 21, 2016

rsideout said:
Correct. I never do a 5320.20 for temporary transport of a suppressor as it is not required. However, some people do as an extra layer of coverage. If I was making a permanent move, then I would probably submit a 5320.20.

So, if I go frequently go back & forth to a shooting range just over the state line (from WV to VA) with my suppressor, I don't need to submit a 5320.20. Right?

dogbone · May 21, 2016

OnTarget said:
So, if I go frequently go back & forth to a shooting range just over the state line (from WV to VA) with my suppressor, I don't need to submit a 5320.20. Right?

That is correct. I shoot at a club just over the MD/PA line and while I have an approved 5320.20 in hand for my SBRs, I do not need to list my cans. Since you can specify a year long transport period on the Form 20, it might not hurt to include the cans but it is not required.

swinokur · May 21, 2016

If not moving out of state, BATFE does not require mandatory notification.

An NFA gun trust lawyer told me this. YMMV

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