gun repair background check

deerhtr · Dec 6, 2017

ok first question. do gunshops normally do a background check when you take your shotgun in for repair.

now the story, somebody i know well took his semiauto shotgun in for repair. he has borrowed my pump to use for duck season. the story im getting is the store ran a background check and it came back as flagged and he cant get his gun back.

question 2 does this sound legit. im thinking there is more to the story but wanted some input from the group.

molonlabe · Dec 6, 2017

Hope you have a receipt. Call the shop to check the truth. I loan my guns to no one. Reagan said trust but verify.

deerhtr · Dec 6, 2017

ummm im related to loanee :lol:

rseymorejr · Dec 6, 2017

deerhtr said:
ummm im related to loanee

Then what he said goes double!

thomfantomas · Dec 6, 2017

I think any FFL that receives any firearm for repairs,sales etc. Runs a mandatory background check to save their asses incase if its reported stolen or in possession of a prohibited person.

hit3961 · Dec 6, 2017

deerhtr said:
ok first question. do gunshops normally do a background check when you take your shotgun in for repair.

now the story, somebody i know well took his semiauto shotgun in for repair. he has borrowed my pump to use for duck season. the story im getting is the store ran a background check and it came back as flagged and he cant get his gun back.

question 2 does this sound legit. im thinking there is more to the story but wanted some input from the group.

Not your problem just get ur gun back!!!!

iH8DemLibz · Dec 6, 2017

If true, sounds to me like an over zealous repair shop.

If true, please come back and tell us the name of the shop.

If they're running background checks on every gun that comes in for repair, then folks should stop taking their guns to that shop.

iH8DemLibz · Dec 6, 2017

thomfantomas said:
I think any FFL that receives any firearm for repairs,sales etc. Runs a mandatory background check to save their asses incase if its reported stolen or in possession of a prohibited person.

So you're saying Colt, Ruger, S&W, Savage, Browning, and all the other repair facilities are running/should run a background check on all guns that come in for repair.

Or is this intrusiveness just OK for an LGS?

ToBeFree · Dec 6, 2017

Yep

iH8DemLibz said:
If true, sounds to me like an over zealous repair shop.

If true, please come back and tell us the name of the shop.

If they're running background checks on every gun that comes in for repair, then folks should stop taking their guns to that shop.

What he said!

Mr H · Dec 6, 2017

I find this odd...

I have given over handguns for repair, and the only information I provided was my name and phone#, so that they could put a tag on them, and call me when they were ready.

From the limited info here, I see 3 possibilities re: the 'smith...

Idiot
Paranoid
Compromised

Some combination of these is also possible, IMO.

cantstop · Dec 6, 2017

Yeah, I'd focus on getting your shotgun back pronto. Your buddy's story sounds a bit fishy. If he failed a NICS check because he's a prohibited person he could be putting you at risk.

I would venture that his semi-auto cost more to repair than he was expecting. He might just be leaving it at the gunsmith and writing it off as a total loss.

Who knows? Get your shotgun back ASAP.

AlBeight · Dec 6, 2017

Won’t it be tricky to convince the shopowner that it is in fact his gun? I have photos of my guns (including s/n #), and a log. I don’t think everyone has that, or similar anyway. Even then do you think this would be enough? Hopefully the OP was there when it was dropped off and he has an in-person familiarity with the shop. This OP story kinda made me cringe as to what may come in MD ......

thomfantomas · Dec 6, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
So you're saying Colt, Ruger, S&W, Savage, Browning, and all the other repair facilities are running/should run a background check on all guns that come in for repair.

Or is this intrusiveness just OK for an LGS?

If thats their policy,im not advocating if they should or shouldnt!

Smokescreen · Dec 6, 2017

So I've done some research on this previously and here is what I found.

If the FFL puts any firearm into any of their official books (repairs, consignments, transfers, whatever), then the owner must fill out a 4473 and the FFL must run a NICS to release it back to the owner. If the firearm was not entered into their books, then they can just give it back.

That being said, its the FFL's license and if they want to "cya", then that's what they are going to do. If your friend was delayed or denied, the FFL should have given them the disposition number and they can contact NICS and find out why so they can get it cleared up. I've heard of people not providing their SSN that get denied and then when they provide it, it goes through.

davsco · Dec 6, 2017

Smokescreen said:
So I've done some research on this previously and here is what I found.

If the FFL puts any firearm into any of their official books (repairs, consignments, transfers, whatever), then the owner must fill out a 4473 and the FFL must run a NICS to release it back to the owner. If the firearm was not entered into their books, then they can just give it back.

say what, a dealer repairing your firearm has to run a background check? really? my understanding is that is not true. and my understanding is if a dealer takes your gun for repairs they must enter it on their books (bound book) but no 4473/nics. of course my understanding could be wrong.

Art3 · Dec 6, 2017

AlBeight said:
Won’t it be tricky to convince the shopowner that it is in fact his gun? I have photos of my guns (including s/n #), and a log. I don’t think everyone has that, or similar anyway. Even then do you think this would be enough? Hopefully the OP was there when it was dropped off and he has an in-person familiarity with the shop. This OP story kinda made me cringe as to what may come in MD ......

The way I was read it, the gun at the shop belongs to the Potentially Prohibited Person, not the OP. The OP's shotgun is in the possession of the PPP as a loaner because the PPP's was in the shop.

So...while the OP should indeed be reclaiming his gun from the PPP asap, it's not as bad as it could have been (for the OP) :shrug:

iH8DemLibz · Dec 6, 2017

Smokescreen said:
So I've done some research on this previously and here is what I found.

If the FFL puts any firearm into any of their official books (repairs, consignments, transfers, whatever), then the owner must fill out a 4473 and the FFL must run a NICS to release it back to the owner. If the firearm was not entered into their books, then they can just give it back.

That being said, its the FFL's license and if they want to "cya", then that's what they are going to do. If your friend was delayed or denied, the FFL should have given them the disposition number and they can contact NICS and find out why so they can get it cleared up. I've heard of people not providing their SSN that get denied and then when they provide it, it goes through.

Again, this 4473/NICS/Repair crap isn't taking place where you mail your firearm so it can be serviced.

These service centers get the gun, log the gun, fix the gun, and ship the gun back to the owner. Sans background check.

Maybe our local gun shops can weigh in on this. And tell us if it's a federally mandated requirement that they can't repair and release a firearm without another background check being run.

Doco Overboard · Dec 6, 2017

Your buddy/friend should have immediately received the other half of the repair tag. I cant imagine a background check done before the problem was communicated, course of action or repairs to be made were finalized and the shotgun turned over to the shop until repairs were finalized.
Sounds like some BS going on to me somewhere along the line.
Who runs the shop?

Blaster229 · Dec 6, 2017

thomfantomas said:
I think any FFL that receives any firearm for repairs,sales etc. Runs a mandatory background check to save their asses incase if its reported stolen or in possession of a prohibited person.

What do you mean a background check? You're kind of messed up here.

A background check is done on a person and it requires certain information. Firearm sales, that would be a NICS check.

You don't perform a "background check" on an item. That would be performed through NCIC through your local LE agency. Like a pawn shop would for hot items.

So what is it that you think gun repair shops do? And when? And what is that shop to do if they do a "background check" on a customer and he is in fact prohibited in possession? Do they detain the guy? LOL

deerhtr · Dec 6, 2017

Art3 said:
The way I was read it, the gun at the shop belongs to the Potentially Prohibited Person, not the OP. The OP's shotgun is in the possession of the PPP as a loaner because the PPP's was in the shop.

So...while the OP should indeed be reclaiming his gun from the PPP asap, it's not as bad as it could have been (for the OP)

art is right as to the scenario.

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