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Old May 23rd, 2020, 01:50 PM #41
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I'm only worried about group size. I don't think I have ever scored any of my targets. I figure if I can consistently achieve 2-3" group then I can move on to different types of training, but if I have no inherent accuracy then what is the point of adding in dynamic techniques?

I think I am now at that level or damn close so I need to start signing up for training this year.

I have also used 4 different pistols, but have finally settled on one going forward. Maybe that will help with consistency as well.
The only thing I can think of is that the relative size of the targets are different at the distances you are shooting at. You are shooting the pistol target closer than they were designed for so the black area will appear larger. This will cause the group size to increase because there is more area to aim at.

It is also possible that the different pistols contributed.
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If you're shooting at 25 feet and only care about groups, don't waste money on bullseye targets ontended for competition.

Just shoot at post it notes taped to scrap paper.
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I'm only worried about group size. I don't think I have ever scored any of my targets. I figure if I can consistently achieve 2-3" group then I can move on to different types of training, but if I have no inherent accuracy then what is the point of adding in dynamic techniques?

I think I am now at that level or damn close so I need to start signing up for training this year.

I have also used 4 different pistols, but have finally settled on one going forward. Maybe that will help with consistency as well.
How about keeping the same range(s) and adding stressers? If your goal is SD, adding stressers will teach you more than distance increases(Blaster will kill me for this...). Get the heart going and see how you hold up.
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(Blaster will kill me for this...).
Dead body pics pleeze... Make sure there is a foot in it.
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Old May 23rd, 2020, 06:33 PM #46
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Dead body pics pleeze... Make sure there is a foot in it.
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How about keeping the same range(s) and adding stressers? If your goal is SD, adding stressers will teach you more than distance increases(Blaster will kill me for this...). Get the heart going and see how you hold up.
Should I have my wife stand next to me at the pistol range and read items off the to-do list?

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Should I have my wife stand next to me at the pistol range and read items off the to-do list?

"It" echos through my brain constantly!
Now we're takin' stress!
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How about keeping the same range(s) and adding stressers? If your goal is SD, adding stressers will teach you more than distance increases(Blaster will kill me for this...). Get the heart going and see how you hold up.

Seriously this is true. During my CCW class one of the exercises was to fire 10 rounds from a cover position at a bad guy mannequin with two good guy mannequins within a foot away. There was one dummy round inserted into your first mag of 5 rounds at an unknown position second mag had 5 rounds. While you were supposed to perform this exercise John from Fortress was screaming in your ear like a drill sergeant the entire time.

The stress was real. It was impressive if you got just 1 shot on the bad guy center of mass, without hitting the good guys. Lots of us dropped mags, reloaded and attempted to fire without racking the slide to eject the dummy round or forgot to pull back
behind the cover.
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I have noticed at times I get a better group with a silhouette or rifle targets than I do with a bullseye target on the same day. Maybe I need to switch to smaller targets to help with the "aim small, miss small" idea.

In my head I want a ~2-3" group at hallway distances. I have also tried using rifle targets with 1" square bullseye.

BTW this would be close to my best at 25 feet but I only achieve it something similar 15-20% of the time. Usually I have a good group with a couple flyers and the group having vertical or horizontal stringing.
So, this looks like you were "shooting the group", unless you adjusted the windage on your next target.
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