With the implementation of the HQL, would it make sense that we could potentially pick a battle to get rid of the 7 day waiting period for regulated firearms? As I originally remember it, it was initially done to allow mailing time between MSP and FFL. Then as data became computerized, it morphed into a 'cooling off' period (I could be wrong about this but that's how I remember it). I think an argument could be made that the HQL does this but then again, this IS Maryland we are talking about, so prolly not.
How about working to eliminate the waiting period?
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pwoolford
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Makes entirely too much sense to be a viable option in MD. If you already own handguns, have an HQL, or have a wear and carry permit the waiting period is pointless.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
The HQL was put in place to make the waiting period longer...there is no way Assapolis is going to remove the waiting period...i'm surprised it's not a lot longer..
If the wait time is really a "cool down" period as it was designed to be, I never understood the point of implementing it on a second, third, or 99th gun purchase. If the buyer already owns a legal regulated firearm, what good is a cool-down period? Silly question, I know.
There may be an avenue to challenge the waiting period in court, as a challenge to CA's 10-day wait has so far been successful in the 9th circuit, however the challenge there only pertains to those who have already been vetted once before.
Otherwise, such a change would require legislation in the General Assembly. There simply aren't enough pro-gun senators and representatives to sway such a change as things stand right now. We need more allies and more people to understand that a right delayed is indeed a right denied.
We'd all love to see the waiting period go away, and as bad as it is here, we don't hold a candle to those in NY. In some places there, it can take a year or more to just be able to buy a handgun.
Otherwise, such a change would require legislation in the General Assembly. There simply aren't enough pro-gun senators and representatives to sway such a change as things stand right now. We need more allies and more people to understand that a right delayed is indeed a right denied.
We'd all love to see the waiting period go away, and as bad as it is here, we don't hold a candle to those in NY. In some places there, it can take a year or more to just be able to buy a handgun.
We at least need to have a few of the pro-2A members of the General Assembly to propose such legislation. Even if it doesn't get out of committee, the publicity and education of the legislature and general public needs to start somewhere.
I'd guarantee that practically NONE of the current GA knows this is current law; even some of our friends.
Wendigo
Hungry
With our current governor and legislature, you have to approach it from a budgetary angle. The waiting period doesn't cost the state anything. However, the MSP background check does. It costs manhours to check 17 different databases, the same databases that are checked for the HQL. If we can propose legislation to save money by removing redundant background checks for HQL holders, we might make some headway.
How often does msp check on HQL holders? Is it just when someone applies or is there a computer running checks looking for people that screw up?
How often does msp check on HQL holders? Is it just when someone applies or is there a computer running checks looking for people that screw up?
From what I understand, they are now using the additional checks and waiting periods essentially as a "check-up" to ensure that the person purchasing a handgun hasn't become ineligible since the last time he/she purchased one. BS argument meant to just screw with gun owners, but an argument that will likely hold up in our wonderful courts system.
More than the waiting period, I would like to see the one hand gun per 30 days restriction removed. Now I haven't purchased or had the need to purchase multiple handguns at the same time. But if I choose to I should be able to. I know the reasoning is to limit the effect of straw purchases, but still BS in my book.
More than the waiting period, I would like to see the one hand gun per 30 days restriction removed. Now I haven't purchased or had the need to purchase multiple handguns at the same time. But if I choose to I should be able to. I know the reasoning is to limit the effect of straw purchases, but still BS in my book.
It was never designed to be a "cool-down" period. It was put in place to deal with snail-mailed 77r forms, before faxes and (soon) Internet submissions took over.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,145
Ah, no. Go back and read the accounts and MGA testimony from 1966. It was at least as much about cooling off period as the background check.
Yep... that's how I remember the debate being presented.
Get a Designated Collector cert from MSP.
No more 1 guna month limit.
No more 1 guna month limit.
Im assuming that the redundant waiting periods will be a part of the HQL lawsuit that MSI will be filing in the coming days. Its actually one aspect of the case where we stand the best chance of winning at least a partial victory.
In the meantime i would suggest waiting until the remedies through the courts are exhausted, as "fixing" the general assembly's cluster**** for them, only makes litigation more difficult.
In the meantime i would suggest waiting until the remedies through the courts are exhausted, as "fixing" the general assembly's cluster**** for them, only makes litigation more difficult.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
The courts agree.
But, AFAIK, the MD code never calls is a cooling off period.
If they did, there would be grounds for a suit to have it removed, especially on purchases after the first one.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Get your Designated Collector. Free. No more 1 per 30 day limit.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
But what does the law say?
It might help a case, but unless the law calls it a cooling off period, the courts may not help.
Aside from getting the signed affidavit notarized, does the MSP give you any grief in applying for the certification?
as long as your record is clean, no.
Would say that should go without saying... But then again, sure many have tried
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