I've got the Ak itch

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

DetectiveWildman said:
And veprs arent a pain to do stuff too, they are just a pain...in MARYLAND. Good old maryland laws, its like the saying if you cant convince them, baffle them with ********.

Of course when I say they are a pain I'm speaking on our situation here in MD. But yeah sounds like the magazine availability sucks.

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

Melnic said:
I have shot both an AK and my VZ2008 (both folding stock and with a VZ58 beaver barf stock added to it)
Vz shoots better than the AK I shot.

If you just want the AK to have an AK, then this opinion does not matter. I can respect the "because its an AK". that's fine.

I have been thinking the AK w/ Pistol brace lately.

Yeah I'm in the mindset right now of I want as close to as an ak as I can get with good magazine/part availability. The arsenal 107r seems to fit the bill and it seems like the 30 rounders are readily available . The vz 58 is a fine weapon and again if I can't make a decision on an ak wanna be I'll surely drop the money on the vz.

DetectiveWildman · Aug 9, 2018

Get the vepr, ergonomics, accuracy, and decent sights are way overrated anyways! Even though its not an ak, look at the PTR 32. HK ergos, 762x39, uses ak mags (some) and apparently accurate as hell. Readily available parts and can take hk91 handgaurds, stocks, etc. But if youve got to have an ak style, vz58 gonna be your best bet if you wanna tinker.

DetectiveWildman · Aug 9, 2018

Get the vepr, ergonomics, accuracy, and decent sights are way overrated anyways! Even though its not an ak, look at the PTR 32. HK ergos, 762x39, uses ak mags (some) and apparently accurate as hell. Readily available parts and can take hk91 handgaurds, stocks, etc. But if youve got to have an ak style, vz58 gonna be your best bet if you wanna tinker.

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

DetectiveWildman said:
Get the vepr, ergonomics, accuracy, and decent sights are way overrated anyways! Even though its not an ak, look at the PTR 32. HK ergos, 762x39, uses ak mags (some) and apparently accurate as hell. Readily available parts and can take hk91 handgaurds, stocks, etc. But if youve got to have an ak style, vz58 gonna be your best bet if you wanna tinker.

Lol. I have looked at the ptr looks like a fine firearm but again I feel if I don't go the ak ish route then I'll just snag myself a vz58. So many options right now to think on. Hopefully some Arsenal owners can jump in and give me some feedback/advice

fidelity · Aug 9, 2018

Chem said:
... Right now the arsenal 107r or the vz58 are looking really good lol.

Aren't the Arsenal SLR-107 rifles banned for new purchases/transfers (other than inheritance) in MD?

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themoose06 · Aug 9, 2018

fidelity said:
Aren't the Arsenal SLR-107 rifles banned for new purchases/transfers (other than inheritance) in MD?

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107’s are banned, copy of ak47

themoose06 · Aug 9, 2018

AK74’s seem to be all good to go

Atlantic sells the AIMS 74 with a wire folder or now fixed stock, along with polish tantal’s.

Ironically you can still buy an RPD (Belt fed rpk essentially) in MD.

Pretty much as long as its 5.56 or 5.45 AK its good to buy in MD. Problem is finding a vendor who will ship one here. Atlantic makes it hassle free but you will be limited to the few AK74’s they sell. I’ve been very happy with my AIMS 74. I had a Zastava M90NP but did not like it much, more of a novelty. I needed a real AK.

an Arsenal 104FR may be the best most true AK74 you can buy in MD, unfortunately they stopped production and sell for $1200-1400

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

themoose06 said:
AK74’s seem to be all good to go

Atlantic sells the AIMS 74 with a wire folder or now fixed stock, along with polish tantal’s.

Ironically you can still buy an RPD (Belt fed rpk essentially) in MD.

Pretty much as long as its 5.56 or 5.45 AK its good to buy in MD. Problem is finding a vendor who will ship one here. Atlantic makes it hassle free but you will be limited to the few AK74’s they sell. I’ve been very happy with my AIMS 74. I had a Zastava M90NP but did not like it much, more of a novelty. I needed a real AK.

an Arsenal 104FR may be the best most true AK74 you can buy in MD, unfortunately they stopped production and sell for $1200-1400

Well the list only says the fr model. And one of the largest retail sites for arsenal firearms said the fr can be shipped and is legal in Maryland based on their website.

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

This is what I'm referring to. Am I missing something?

AssMan · Aug 9, 2018

Chem said:
This is what I'm referring to. Am I missing something?

Honestly, it doesn't matter what K-VAR says. You need to confirm that your receiving MD FFL agrees that it's legal and is willing to transfer it.

Dammit_Man · Aug 9, 2018

I don't think anyone has mentioned the slr-106 as an option. MD legal, and would be my choice as I also have your affliction.

Cons-
magazine availability
Some serial numbers have issues
More expensive and less available than a x39 ak

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

snallygaster said:
Honestly, it doesn't matter what K-VAR says. You need to confirm that your receiving MD FFL agrees that it's legal and is willing to transfer it.

Of course. I'm just trying to get my facts straight and not weigh it out as an option if it is in fact legal

Chem · Aug 9, 2018

Dammit_Man said:
I don't think anyone has mentioned the slr-106 as an option. MD legal, and would be my choice as I also have your affliction.

Cons-
magazine availability
Some serial numbers have issues
More expensive and less available than a x39 ak

Why's does magazine availability always have to be a problem lol. Maybe I should consider the 104

thomfantomas · Aug 9, 2018

Bulgarian arsenal is the closest you'll get to an ak in ghis state unless you sbr an ak pistol...

JTH20 · Aug 9, 2018

Chem said:
Why's does magazine availability always have to be a problem lol. Maybe I should consider the 104

Good luck finding a decent price 104, the market has gone crazy since they stopped imports.

Midway stocks 20 rounders for the 106 and I've seen them at shows. Not impossible to find.

themoose06 · Aug 9, 2018

Chem said:
This is what I'm referring to. Am I missing something?

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizat...LicensingDivision/Firearms/FirearmSearch.aspx

Scroll down to Arsenal, 107fr is banned. 7.62x39 ak rifles are no go.

5.45 have been fine, ex the arsenal 104 fr chambered in 5.45x39 or the 105

themoose06 · Aug 9, 2018

Options are limited for “New” AK74’s

I went with the AIMS 74

AIMS 74 built by atlantic, md legal

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/co...s/aam-romanian-ak-74-aim-detail.html?Itemid=0

Polish tantal built by atlantic

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/co...polish-tantal-ak74-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/ak-47-74-rifles/ak-74-rifles.html

rob-cubed · Aug 9, 2018

Per some other commenters, there are firearms that the MSP has blessed that have pistol grips, bullet guides, etc. and are mechanically identical to a VEPR.

Personally I wouldn't hesitate to buy a VEPR and swap out some furniture—clearly this does not violate the spirit of whatever logic the MSP uses to determine what is kosher and what's not. But I understand other's reluctance.

Thankfully I also didn't have to make this choice post-2013.

Sirex · Aug 9, 2018

I had a love/hate relationship with my 7.62x54r Vepr. Sold it and bought a 7.62x39 Vepr. No regrets. I have a VZ2008 (VZ58Century clone), and it is a great rifle, but nowhere as close to my heart as the Vepr, even in its sporter configuration.

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