Allowing Felons to vote in Virginia now

jeffie7 · Apr 23, 2016

Just to make this clear.

MD restored voting rights as soon as someone steps out of the jail regardless of probation. Something I had a problem with.

VA is restoring voting rights only after probation is completed? If so I do not have a problem with that.

That would explain why the number is so high.

K31 · Apr 23, 2016

jeffie7 said:
Just to make this clear.

MD restored voting rights as soon as someone steps out of the jail regardless of probation. Something I had a problem with.

VA is restoring voting rights only after probation is completed? If so I do not have a problem with that.

That would explain why the number is so high.

And it has nothing to do with the upcoming election...

jeffie7 · Apr 23, 2016

K31 said:
And it has nothing to do with the upcoming election...

I agree timing is showing of his true intent. If he made it effective as of next year id see value in his move.

dontpanic · Apr 23, 2016

jimbobborg said:
Yup. This is a nice, political stunt. Fortunately, it's a one time deal. Even more fortunate, it's against the Virginia Constitution, so it may not stand.

He said he would repeat this every month.

EL1227 · Apr 23, 2016

Just to make this clear ...

jeffie7 said:
Just to make this clear.

MD restored voting rights as soon as someone steps out of the jail regardless of probation. Something I had a problem with.

VA is restoring voting rights only after probation is completed? If so I do not have a problem with that.

That would explain why the number is so high.

NOTHING McAuliffe does is altruistic, including this executive action. Despite your feelings that it may be the right thing to do, his record of public actions has been to deliver quid pro quo for Hillary in Virginia.

Hillary Clinton campaigns in VA for McAuliffe

McAuliffe veto opens polls for Hillary Clinton ‘ghost voters’

Hillary's brother raised Chinese money for McAuliffe's green car venture

BeltBuckle · Apr 23, 2016

Washington Post had an interesting article on this today https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...31cc34-08a1-11e6-bfed-ef65dff5970d_story.html which gives a cursory description of the legal legerdemain through which McAuliffe is doing this. As others have noted, it does require him to reaffirm monthly; and it wasn't entirely clear, but the next gov will have the option not to follow this precedent, though I'm not sure if that means the actions could be rescinded, (.e., the felon's voting rights could again be rescinded...).

One of the parts of this that give me pause is that this action is apparently focused on felons convicted of violent crimes. If that's actually true it would tend to validate the most cynical interpretations of the political motives behind this.

Post also has an article about the fruits of the similar MD move https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...24ac62-0715-11e6-b283-e79d81c63c1b_story.html

swinokur · Apr 23, 2016

It was pointed out on Fox yesterday. that based on the last election, the difference between Obama and Romney in VA was less than 200,000 votes.

It's a huge deal.

jc1240 · Apr 23, 2016

INMY01TA said:
We're screwed.

I believe the country as a majority still believes in COTUS and concepts like the 1A and 2A and on a true level playing field, the country would be fine.

But we ARE screwed because the lefties basically cheat. This is an example. Illegal aliens being given things like drivers licenses (saw something that about 50% of 2015 CA licenses went to illegals) that makes voter fraud easier is another.

Look at how things are with the "transgender" bathroom BS. It's a minority shoving that down the country's throat. MD Gen. Ass. goes out of it's way breaking several rules to strip out the single crime-related amendment to FSA2013. Why? Because they can't do their enslaving BS in a legitimate way.

To me, it's a non-biblical Revelations. The country will fall. Sadly maybe even within my lifetime now (never thought that before Obama). There will be suffering at the hands of the left. Then one day, one man/woman or a small group of old-school Patriots will awaken and we'll have The American Revolution v2.0.

mesmithwesson · Apr 23, 2016

zoostation said:
200,000 more fine democrats to vote in a swing state. Bitch Boy wants a cabinet post.

This may help:

Restore D.C.!

Remove Arlington, Alexandria, Reston, and Falls Church from VA and return them to DC. That should remove about 400,000 Dems.

MrNiceGuy · Apr 24, 2016

outrider58 said:
I got no problem with people who've finished paying their debt to society for their crimes, parole and all, being given their voting rights returned. Firearms and such, well that should be determined with stricter authority. If any part of your crime conviction involved violence, then no. No firearms...ever.

That's treating the RKBA differently from other rights, which is a common tactic the left uses as an excuse to deny the rest of us. First of all, we all know that if someone wants to get their hands on guns to do bad things, they have no problem making it happen, so we aren't actually preventing anything there. Secondly, if someone is so dangerous that we absolutely cannot trust them to handle a firearm, they should be in prison.

My view is you make this very simple: while in prison, here are the rights you have and the rights you lose. While not in prison, you have all rights. Now, adjust prison sentencing and policies to ensure that rehabilitation is an actual thing that happens and to ensure that dangerous people are not released.

jc1240 · Apr 25, 2016

From http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...i-would-tell-the-republicans-quit-complaining

The order allows felons who have served their prison time and finished parole to register to vote. It reverses a Civil War-era provision in Virginia's Constitution.

If it's in the state Constitution, how can an EO couter that?

jimbobborg · Apr 25, 2016

jc1240 said:
From http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...i-would-tell-the-republicans-quit-complaining

If it's in the state Constitution, how can an EO counter that?

I didn't realize the Civil War was still going into the early 1900s. As for the EO, it's a Virginia state unconstitutional act. Notice it's only voting rights, not a clean slate :innocent0

rockstarr · May 3, 2016

yeah, I think way to get rights reinstated is a good idea BUT it should be ALL rights, AFTER the sentence is served and sure as heck not right before a historic election just because you are in bed with the candidate...

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