2018 Constitutional/Permitless Carry

press1280 · Mar 7, 2018

Colorado's bill just passed the Senate http://www.nbc11news.com/content/news/Constitutional-carry-bill-passes-state-senate-476074633.html

Now goes to the House where it'll likely be desk drawer vetoed by the Dems.

rockstarr · Mar 8, 2018

press1280 said:
Colorado's bill just passed the Senate http://www.nbc11news.com/content/news/Constitutional-carry-bill-passes-state-senate-476074633.html

Now goes to the House where it'll likely be desk drawer vetoed by the Dems.

this is my shocked face

press1280 · Mar 27, 2018

Colorado's bill goes down by party line vote in House committee: http://kdvr.com/2018/03/22/bill-to-...rmit-in-colorado-rejected-by-house-committee/

press1280 · Apr 20, 2018

press1280 said:
Oklahoma House committee just passed Constitutional Carry AND passed another bill that will allow school districts to have teachers armed.

It now goes to the full House. http://www.news9.com/story/37617926/state-house-committee-passes-2-controversial-gun-bills

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180314/oklahoma-house-to-vote-on-constitutional-carry-legislation

The House is apparently trying to attach Constitutional Carry to a Senate passed bill which is a very bland clarification of the CCW law. I'm guessing this is being done to avoid a Senate committee. Perhaps there's an anti gun chairperson in the committee where the bill would go and that person would desk drawer veto.

press1280 · Apr 26, 2018

OK House passed the bill last night, 59-28 http://kfor.com/2018/04/25/oklahoma-house-passes-constitutional-carry-gun-bill/

13 members didn't vote so I don't know whether they'll have a veto proof margin.

press1280 · Apr 26, 2018

press1280 said:
OK House passed the bill last night, 59-28 http://kfor.com/2018/04/25/oklahoma-house-passes-constitutional-carry-gun-bill/

13 members didn't vote so I don't know whether they'll have a veto proof margin.

EDIT: https://legiscan.com/OK/rollcall/SB1212/id/743599

9 GOP and 4 Dems didn't vote. If those just vote along party lines, then that'll be 67 votes, just enough for a veto override. Of course, the weasels always come out after vetos and there was one Dem that voted Yea. You can bet that one will have his/her arm twisted if it comes down to a single vote.
The Governor has a pretty strong 2A resume, but ConCarry is always a challenge, so that's why I'm interested in these numbers.

rockstarr · May 1, 2018

any update here?

press1280 · May 1, 2018

rockstarr said:
any update here?

I've read the Senate was supposed to take it up this week, but nothing is set in stone.

press1280 · May 3, 2018

http://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-senate-passes-constitutional-carry-bill/20130766

Passed Senate by a veto proof 33-9 vote. On to the Governor :thumbsup:

rockstarr · May 3, 2018

uh oh, looking good

JPG · May 11, 2018

press1280 said:
http://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-senate-passes-constitutional-carry-bill/20130766

Passed Senate by a veto proof 33-9 vote. On to the Governor

Vetoed.

Legislature is out of session so they can't bring it up until next year with the New Governor.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-gop-gov-mary-fallin-vetoes-no-permit-231010686.html

press1280 · May 12, 2018

This is a lesson to any states that want to pass similar legislation.
DO NOT PASS IT AT THE LAST MINUTE AND LEAVE IT ALL TO THE GOVERNOR.
WV did the same thing the first time around and got burned. If you have veto proof numbers you need to pass it with time to spare to override.

Allen65 · May 12, 2018

press1280 said:
This is a lesson to any states that want to pass similar legislation.
DO NOT PASS IT AT THE LAST MINUTE AND LEAVE IT ALL TO THE GOVERNOR.
WV did the same thing the first time around and got burned. If you have veto proof numbers you need to pass it with time to spare to override.

Or, alternatively, if you are a legislator who wants to be able to claim credit for voting for it, but don't really want it to become law, work with your leadership to get it passed at the last minute.

press1280 · May 12, 2018

Allen65 said:
Or, alternatively, if you are a legislator who wants to be able to claim credit for voting for it, but don't really want it to become law, work with your leadership to get it passed at the last minute.

On a positive note the issue is still on the table for this years' election and most of the GOP candidates for Governor have said they would sign it. But still it's stupid to leave it to chance (unless this is all a show like the Obamacare votes).

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