Anything We Can Do To Save CCW Review Board?

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  • jdougal08

    Active Member
    Jan 25, 2008
    188
    Multiple stories seem to point to the review board on it's way out. Is there anyone specifically we can contact/email to oppose this move? I know there are folks here a lot more knowledgeable about the way the legislature works and how to proceed.
     

    esqappellate

    President, MSI
    Feb 12, 2012
    7,407
    Multiple stories seem to point to the review board on it's way out. Is there anyone specifically we can contact/email to oppose this move? I know there are folks here a lot more knowledgeable about the way the legislature works and how to proceed.

    It will be up for a vote on the floor. And there is a hearing scheduled in the Senate for 3/12. 1. Make appts. and talk to your reps. about it. 2. Show up on the 12th and testify.
     

    jrh0341

    Member
    Jul 20, 2017
    58
    It will be up for a vote on the floor. And there is a hearing scheduled in the Senate for 3/12. 1. Make appts. and talk to your reps. about it. 2. Show up on the 12th and testify.

    I feel like this is an opportunity to hit up the non-gun community. Not the antis so much as the fence sitting impartials.

    First, the people who don't feel strongly about guns one way or the other, but have EVER replied to a neighborhood FB crime page like "what can people do to protect themselves" "you ought to get a gun" "you can't carry one in MD though..."

    Guys, THIS is why.

    Bigger outreach, the REAL outreach, is applying to people's sense of right and wrong. Look, the gun haters will be all about screwing our rights no matter what.

    What may help is pointing out to the fence sitters about

    POWER AND OVERSIGHT.


    DO You Care how your government deals with oversight?

    HB819 is not a Gun Bill. It is a bill to REMOVE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT from a government position.

    When a citizen of MD, who meets all legal requirements, applies for a carry permit, an administrative office at the MSP CHOOSES whether to grant or deny the permit, using their discretion about whether the citizen has enough need.

    Up to now, we citizens could appeal a decision, before a board, comprised of appointed Marylanders.

    Now members of Senate want to remove the oversight of that board.

    The board on several occasions has amended or reversed decisions that were deemed arbitrary, or vague or unjust.

    Some members of the Senate can't accept the times our citizens' oversight board has told their administrative office, "your decision was wrong."

    Their proposed solution: Kill the board.

    They've asked to replace an appeal board with a trip to another administrative office they control.

    Read that clearly.

    They want to replace civilian oversight of their office, with oversight of their office by another one of their offices.

    Do you support government accountability?
    Do you support review and oversight of government decisions?
    Do you OPPOSE allowing a government office to disband a committee just because they're tired of the committee telling them NO?

    Then say so.

    Click this link. Fill out this postcard. Click your representative's name. Click

    "Be Heard".

    Not exactly what a message would say, but you get the general idea.

    Try and create a quick, easy effortless way for Marylanders from all over the political spectrum to flood their Reps with feedback. Spark that feedback in the clear and simple terms that the Senate is trying to pull a fast one and we won't let them. We won't let them cut off an oversight board just because they don't like the answers, and award themselves their own oversight of themselves.
     

    Bob A

    όυ φροντισ
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Nov 11, 2009
    30,687
    When they neutered the HPRB last year with the OAH nonsense, I told Del Dumais that, as a longtime resident of PRTakoma, where we have dozens of civilian review boards, I found it shocking that they'd worked so hard to undercut the only civilian review of MSP.

    She was not amused.
    I was greatly pleased to annoy her. It does no real good, but rubbing her nose in the mess made my evening.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,087
    It will be up for a vote on the floor. And there is a hearing scheduled in the Senate for 3/12. 1. Make appts. and talk to your reps. about it. 2. Show up on the 12th and testify.

    That would be the House for HB1343, currently no date scheduled for Senate Judicial Proceedings.

    Hope to be there.
     

    montoya32

    Ultimate Member
    Patriot Picket
    Jun 16, 2010
    11,311
    Harford Co
    That would be the House for HB1343, currently no date scheduled for Senate Judicial Proceedings.

    Hope to be there.

    The senate bill was sent to the ENC. Do you know why that would be? That is not a committee that would review or discuss bills.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,087
    The senate bill was sent to the ENC. Do you know why that would be? That is not a committee that would review or discuss bills.

    ENC approves the appointments by the Governor, but it was jointly assigned as I read it correctly, JPR has yet to set a hearing date, unless JPR will show up in ENC for that bill hearing.
     

    montoya32

    Ultimate Member
    Patriot Picket
    Jun 16, 2010
    11,311
    Harford Co
    ENC approves the appointments by the Governor, but it was jointly assigned as I read it correctly, JPR has yet to set a hearing date.

    It is a joint hearing Friday at 9am.

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    Adolph Oliver Bush

    Ultimate Member
    Patriot Picket
    Dec 13, 2015
    1,940
    It will be up for a vote on the floor. And there is a hearing scheduled in the Senate for 3/12. 1. Make appts. and talk to your reps. about it. 2. Show up on the 12th and testify.

    And hit them on social media!

    One SOCMED warrior post for every MDS post, at least!

    Take the fight to the safe spaces of zirkin, atterbeary, clippinger , etc.

    Be nice. Just the facts, ma'am.
     

    Mr H

    Banana'd
    Just in from NRA-ILA...

    This Friday, in the Joint Hearing Room at 9:00am, after multiple days of extended testimony in opposition to anti-gun bills in Maryland, a joint hearing between the Executive Nominations Committee and Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee is scheduled to consider yet another anti-gun bill, Senate Bill 1000. This same legislation was introduced in 2018 to repeal the Handgun Permit Review Board and was quickly opposed and amended to prevent that repeal. This year, they are back at it with another attempt. It is important that you again show up in opposition to this anti-gun legislation. Also, please contact committee members and urge them to OPPOSE Senate Bill 1000.

    Shades of the 2013 shenanigans...
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 24, 2018
    20,230
    Montgomery County
    Any update on this?

    The bill to kill the HPRB passed. It's now up to Hogan to veto that bill (SB1000). WRITE TO HIM. CALL HIM. Explain that citizen oversight of that State Police process is vital. That's the only hope, pending some fine day in the future when the courts smack down the entire G&S process.
     

    Knuckle66

    One of the 365
    Mar 11, 2012
    615
    Hagerstown
    The bill to kill the HPRB passed. It's now up to Hogan to veto that bill (SB1000). WRITE TO HIM. CALL HIM. Explain that citizen oversight of that State Police process is vital. That's the only hope, pending some fine day in the future when the courts smack down the entire G&S process.

    On it.
     

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