NJ Gov. Orders State Police To Commandeer Needed Medical Supplies

goodboyranger · Apr 3, 2020

While I understand the need for the equipment in the hospitals, where does their right to take your personal property stop? Are they going to look at purchase history and approach private residences? If he can enact this executive order giving police the authority to “commandeer” PPE they could authorize anything (ammo, property, food, fuel?). Thought it might be a relevant topic for this forum and at a minimum may be a reminder about the traceability of your preps. Meanwhile 3M’s distributors have been selling n95 masks to foreign entities who are showing up to the distribution centers with cash, denying Americans the much needed PPE. On the same day that story broke a US Governor is legalizing theft of said PPE from US citizens.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/0...police-to-commandeer-needed-medical-supplies/

WildWeasel · Apr 3, 2020

Sounds illegal to me...- Capt. Obvious

And one more thing to not comply with. This event is certainly being used to test the limits of their communist/fascist regimes. What will they do? Hard to say. Sounds more like a threat to go after companies who normally have a bunch, not someone who bought a pack or 10 before this kicked off. Regardless, I hope the infringement cases that will come from this pandemic can be won.

motorcoachdoug · Apr 3, 2020

How fast will someone be filing a lawsuite in federal court over this?????

Kman · Apr 3, 2020

What the hell!?

Murphy had previously ordered for businesses and individuals to donate unused personal protection equipment by March 27 for future use by hospital workers facing shortages.

This sounds an awful lot like mandatory/voluntary gun buy backs or calling my taxes voluntary contributions.

JPG · Apr 3, 2020

I thought the ACLU would be an essential business. Where are they on these business closings/stay home orders/arrest, jail fines for what the governors are doing and now Police getting orders to take stuff?

Alea Jacta Est · Apr 3, 2020

Not a good sign.

Not unsurprising. It is Jersey.

Nobody has ever done this (covid type pandemic writ large) before. Not defending Jersey...in fact, I expect to see other leftist enclaves follow suit.

Politics: always about the acquisition of and application of power. ALWAYS

Jersey folks brought in their pols and their laws. They own this.

JerseyMike · Apr 3, 2020

I’ve never really heard of buzzfeed but they have two unsettling articles on the “authoritarian creep” the virus is causing, and how people are just to accepting of it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...ter-coronavirus-it-will-not-go-back-to-normal

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/they-were-opposed-to-government-surveillance-then-the

Doctor_M · Apr 3, 2020

Theft is theft, regardless of if it occurs at the hands of a pickpocket, a street thug, or an agent of the government acting under official color.

Norton · Apr 3, 2020

JerseyMike said:
I’ve never really heard of buzzfeed but they have two unsettling articles on the “authoritarian creep” the virus is causing, and how people are just to accepting of it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...ter-coronavirus-it-will-not-go-back-to-normal

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/they-were-opposed-to-government-surveillance-then-the

We should be encouraging articles from places like that because it doesn't carry the baggage of the more overtly right-leaning sites.

Norton · Apr 3, 2020

This isn't going to end well. It's not going to end well at all.

If it can start there, using the massaging of language to make you a hoarder for having 20 dust masks, what's the next step?

Too much food? Hoarder.
Too much much water? Hoarder

Too big of a house for the number of people that live there? Commandeered.

This is a big damned deal.

135sohc · Apr 3, 2020

Time for a big dumpster fire :innocent0

MaxVO2 · Apr 3, 2020

Norton said:
This isn't going to end well. It's not going to end well at all.

If it can start there, using the massaging of language to make you a hoarder for having 20 dust masks, what's the next step?

Too much food? Hoarder.
Too much much water? Hoarder

Too big of a house for the number of people that live there? Commandeered.

This is a big damned deal.

******I think this is part of the reason many people have suggested for getting rid of paper currency and going to all CC, Debit, or other form of electronic payment. It makes it easy to track purchases, and much more difficult to hide assets, track the purchase of items deemed dangerous (guns, bibles, NRA whiskey tumblers, Gadsden flags, MAGA hats, bacon, or whatever, etc..)

I've always tried to pay cash for most everything, mostly as a budgetary thing (no cash, no buy...). There are some things you can't buy in cash(at least easily), but I can see how the govt, or other such entity would rather be able to pull up a persons purchase history and see where they have been, what and how much was bought, etc...

This IS a big damned deal. It's being done incrementally, like gun control. The virus going on now is a terrible situation and crisis. We know from experience that there are those out there who never let a crisis go to waste. :rolleyes:

JerseyMike · Apr 3, 2020

MaxVO2 said:
******I think this is part of the reason many people have suggested for getting rid of paper currency and going to all CC, Debit, or other form of electronic payment. It makes it easy to track purchases, and much more difficult to hide assets, track the purchase of items deemed dangerous (guns, bibles, NRA whiskey tumblers, Gadsden flags, MAGA hats, bacon, or whatever, etc..)

I've always tried to pay cash for most everything, mostly as a budgetary thing (no cash, no buy...). There are some things you can't buy in cash(at least easily), but I can see how the govt, or other such entity would rather be able to pull up a persons purchase history and see where they have been, what and how much was bought, etc...

This IS a big damned deal. It's being done incrementally, like gun control. The virus going on now is a terrible situation and crisis. We know from experience that there are those out there who never let a crisis go to waste.

China is already using digital payment apps to track people.

“Payment apps like Alipay and WeChat installed software to track users' movements. China’s state-run telecom color-coded users’ phones in red, green, and yellow, based on their risk of possible infection — which were then checked by guards at train stations. Those who broke quarantine were reported to the police.”

From one of the articles I just posted. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...ter-coronavirus-it-will-not-go-back-to-normal

RuralRifleGuy · Apr 3, 2020

JPG said:
I thought the ACLU would be an essential business. Where are they on these business closings/stay home orders/arrest, jail fines for what the governors are doing and now Police getting orders to take stuff?

They’re too busy mad that illegals aren’t getting a stimulus check, pushing for the release of prisoners from prisons, and working on vote by mail.

Seagrave1963 · Apr 3, 2020

Norton said:
This isn't going to end well. It's not going to end well at all.

If it can start there, using the massaging of language to make you a hoarder for having 20 dust masks, what's the next step?

Too much food? Hoarder.
Too much much water? Hoarder

Too big of a house for the number of people that live there? Commandeered.

This is a big damned deal.

This, along with the digitizing of transactions, means that all citizens will then have to be cared for by the government for all facets of life. The Master Plan is becoming clearer each day.

Uncle Duke · Apr 3, 2020

"Ordered" to "donate."

Love the wordsmithing surrounding this Jersey extortion.

DeCavalcante would be proud.

Norton · Apr 3, 2020

Uncle Duke said:
"Ordered" to "donate."

Love the wordsmithing surrounding this Jersey extortion.

DeCavalcante would be proud.

Like the idea of mandatory volunteer hours in school.

grimnar15 · Apr 3, 2020

Imagine government run healthcare, you live, you die, have a nice day.

willtill · Apr 3, 2020

grimnar15 said:
Imagine government run healthcare, you live, you die, have a nice day.

HarryLogan · Apr 3, 2020

grimnar15 said:
Imagine government run healthcare, you live, you die, have a nice day.

I don't think they'd tell you to have a nice day.

In all seriousness, these state governments should be taken to task for not being prepared for something like this. And if they are "ordering" people to "donate" supplies then that shows how ill-prepared they really are.

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