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  • robmints

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 20, 2011
    5,112
    So none of you have ever changed a Democrats mind on guns? I've changed several, so ya'll not trying hard enough.:party29::bullhorn::cool16:

    I try and succeed all the time. But it makes zero difference. Being American Socialists, they still vote straight American Socialist ticket. Being good little Socialists they would support gun turn ins if told to, and gladly turn their's over. The concept of freedom, it's rarity and value goes right over their head.

    I took my BIL from bb guns to multiple NFA applications in one week. He would be the first in line to turn his firearms over if ordered by his socialist overlords.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,101
    Reach out to Democrats. Take them to the range. Don't alienate them.

    But they still vote for Democrats, who in turn still vote to restrict our 2A rights. Yes, they may become a convert for the 2A, but will that change how they vote? I still take them to the range, it still doesn't change how they vote. How do we change how they vote?
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,101
    Given that this is an election year, and the shinnanigans in Annapolis, time for a bump, and time for those that want to do more to pick a suggestion.
     
    I try and succeed all the time. But it makes zero difference. Being American Socialists, they still vote straight American Socialist ticket. Being good little Socialists they would support gun turn ins if told to, and gladly turn their's over. The concept of freedom, it's rarity and value goes right over their head.

    I took my BIL from bb guns to multiple NFA applications in one week. He would be the first in line to turn his firearms over if ordered by his socialist overlords.

    True dyed in the wool liberal democrats are not interested in listening to anyone who challenge their agenda..one big problem in Maryland and elsewhere is that many democrats have lost touch with what has become their party's values, but continue to vote for the communists anyway..those folks usually can be reasoned with ..unfortunately they are a small minority of those on the left..right here among the MDS members there are still democrats who have yet to understand that the democrat party of their parents no longer exists..but getting them to change is very hard...anyone who owns guns and still votes for a Democrat is doing themselves and the rest of us an injustice. .
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,101
    Given what is going on in Maryland, and the temperment of the 2A community in Maryland, I think it is time to bump this thread again.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,101
    At the request of someone here on the forums, I have contacted friends and acquaintances that are 2A supporters, FFLs, firearms safety trainers, gun smiths and shooting club members for input on "outside the box" ideas for getting our message heard...not only by the GA but more importantly by citizens of the state. Some of these ideas may be outside the comfort zone of some of you. Please keep responses civil, and if you have comments on how to make them better or have other ideas no matter how crazy they seem, please share. The only caveat is they must be legal..Civility is not a requirement. It's time to take off the gloves...

    Don't remember if I posted this, but that person was me, BTW we still need to get a beer.

    1) As an effort to shame the liberals in the GA, Public Service Announcement type videos should be produced explaining how the liberals in Annapolis would rather see law abiding citizens dead rather than giving them "permission" to carry the tools to defend themselves. These videos would then be hosted on the web. Names should be used like Frosh, Miller, Busch, Raskin, Van Hollen ETC.

    It is past time to do this and call out everyone via social media, pick one and pick them apart, if one person picked one elected official, or even if one person picked their district, there would be a non stop litany of video against those in Annapolis that want to infringe on our rights.

    I would go a step further and also add video of those leading anti-2A organizations on how they want people to be victims of violent crime.

    2) Find pro 2A land owners along major highways that would be willing to host signage with the URL of the webpage along with a message on how these liberals want to see Marylanders dead.

    THIS, So MUCH THIS!!!!

    3) Find a suitable pro 2A candidate to challenge Frosh in 2018 for AG.
    This needs to be updated for 2022, and that needs to start sooner rather than later.

    4) Ask HQL/CCW trainers to voluntarily require voter registration cards when signing up for classes. Democrats are refused service. Same goes for gun sales and service. Same with gun shows, no democrats allowed, voter card required for entry. The idea isn't to deny anyone buying a firearm, but to inconvenience them and force them to change party affiliation, even if it''s just temporary, just like getting an HQL and long waits for CC permits from the state is an inconvenience for us...

    As has already been discussed, probably not legal, but you never know until you press the issue. My only issue is that everyone has a right to personal protection and their choice to exercise it, preventing them from doing so, either by lack of a purchase or lack of training, makes us no better than the other side. We really need a true discussion on this issue, to flesh the idea out.

    5) Protest outside the homes of the more nefarious anti gun libs several times during session...weekends would be perfect and the turnout might be better. And protest in front of their places of employment during the week several times a year..

    While homes of elected officials are out of bounds per state law (I think that is Unconstitutional), their places of business are not out of bounds. And by the way, the homes of Anti-@a Lobbyists are not out of bounds.

    6) Ask the gun clubs in Md to increase their yearly dues by $5 a member and donate that money to MSI for the HQL suit, Ask trainers to increase their training fees for HQL classes by $2 and ask private ranges open to the public to increase their fees by $2.00 per shooter and do the same with that $$.

    This was started at one point, but not sustained, this needs to be revisited and restarted in some way shape or form. Perhaps tip jars at all FFLs that are collected each week and the proceeds turned into the organization dujur.

    This is a start. I requested information from almost 40 individuals. They in turn are asking 2A supporters in their circles of friends. I'm sure there is more ideas to come, and if you have any, please post them.

    To add to this, we need to dive headfirst into "Rules for Radicals", but that requires a real committment of time and effort to get it started, but once the grass roots of RfR is started, it takes less effort to maintain, if I understand it correctly from our resident expert (Yes, we have a gentleman that has worked directly with Mr. Alinsky on this board and he very active in the 2A community).
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,101
    Don't remember if I posted this, but that person was me, BTW we still need to get a beer.



    I am coming to Assapolis Monday unless the weather is bad (I have an ear infection, doc said to stay out of the damp) I will be wearing inflammatory clothing that is meant to piss off the left, not plead with them....come find me.

    Trying to find an ******* in a group of assholes.....OK.....LOL

    See you there...

    A fellow *******.
     

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