NYC CCW case is at SCOTUS!

JamesDong · Dec 22, 2020

Sure, this will happen. :lol:

MackM · Dec 22, 2020

The good folks at www.marylandshallissue.org are about to get a similar case in front of the SCOTUS. $50/yr to join MSI.

MichaelZWilliamson · Dec 23, 2020

wjackcooper said:
Wow, thanks for posting press 1280!

Seems to me the odds favor a 5 - 4, if not a 6 - 3 win.

Yea!

Regards
Jack

Stevens--against
Thomas--for
Breyer--squishy
Alito--for
Sotomayor--against
Kagan--against
Gorsuch--for
Kavanaugh--on record that if a law exists for "long enough" it can't be challenged. He seems to regard two years as long enough
Barrett--unknown. Her only 2A case was about restoration of existing rights, not expanding

So it's 3:3 with two probably nots and an unknown.

MichaelZWilliamson · Dec 23, 2020

ed bernay said:
If SCOTUS doesn't stop this BS now and if Biden is inaugurated, NYC gun control is coming to the USA. People in the rest of the country that actually have experienced freedom will not allow their guns to be taken. They will ignore gun control laws but if government agents come looking for them, I'll bet a significant percentage will open fire if first fired upon. No one wants that. Look at what NYPD does just based on a "tip".

The people who lack the balls to resist illegal orders to wear face panties when most states have zero enforcement, will get into shootouts with cops?

I think you mean, "They'll post memes on Facebook about how molon labe they back the blue, while the blue kick in their doors and they whimper and hand their guns over."

KHagberg · Dec 23, 2020

When will Maryland ever become “Shall Issue?”

Batt816 · Dec 23, 2020

KHagberg said:
When will Maryland ever become “Shall Issue?”

Probably never.

delaneyesq · Dec 23, 2020

SCOTUS will deny cert. Unfortunately!

eruby · Dec 23, 2020

KHagberg said:
When will Maryland ever become “Shall Issue?”

Welcome, and Happy Festivus.

Perhaps post up in the Introductions forum, so we can know you better:

https://www.mdshooters.com/forumdisplay.php?f=119

Bob A · Dec 23, 2020

KHagberg said:
When will Maryland ever become “Shall Issue?”

Certainly before such anti-2A strongholds like Illinois and DC.

ed bernay · Dec 23, 2020

MichaelZWilliamson said:
The people who lack the balls to resist illegal orders to wear face panties when most states have zero enforcement, will get into shootouts with cops?

I think you mean, "They'll post memes on Facebook about how molon labe they back the blue, while the blue kick in their doors and they whimper and hand their guns over."

How many in NY registered their rifles vs turned in their semi auto rifles because of the SAFE Act? I have seen estimates of 44,000 registered vs 900,000 unregistered and kept. If police start doing raids you think all of those people will allow themselves be sent to jail for merely exercising their 2nd amendment right for a product they bought legally? Some may beg for forgiveness but not all. If you are going to be sent to jail with no way to feed your family and not being able to get a job when you get out, at what point will a person say enough?

I don't think the mask analogy is apples to apples. For the most part, politicians are using businesses for enforcement. If they made it illegal to be out in public for anyone without a mask and a threat of a felony for non compliance, I'd bet you would see a more violent reaction from the public.

rambling_one · Dec 23, 2020

Bob A said:
Certainly before such anti-2A strongholds like Illinois and DC.

Hard to believe how things have thus far turned out isn't it?

whistlersmother · Dec 23, 2020

rambling_one said:
Hard to believe how things have thus far turned out isn't it?

Frankly, because those places went complete retard on gun control, that is why they got slapped down.

Maryland has gone just mostly retard - and being in the 4CA doesn't help.

In some ways, I want Maryland to go beyond full retard - but I'll have to live with the stupidity until it gets slapped down...

teratos · Dec 23, 2020

whistlersmother said:
Frankly, because those places went complete retard on gun control, that is why they got slapped down.

Maryland has gone just mostly retard - and being in the 4CA doesn't help.

In some ways, I want Maryland to go beyond full retard - but I'll have to live with the stupidity until it gets slapped down...

This is why we shouldn’t even bother opposing gun legislation. Go ahead, Atterbeary, put all your vapid notions in the bill. Pass it. Makes it easier to fight.

press1280 · Dec 24, 2020

SCOTUS docket page is up: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20-843.html

Response due January 22nd

motorcoachdoug · Dec 25, 2020

Very Interesting..

Boxcab · Dec 25, 2020

teratos said:
This is why we shouldn’t even bother opposing gun legislation. Go ahead, Atterbeary, put all your vapid notions in the bill. Pass it. Makes it easier to fight.

I've been saying this for awhile. Don't stop your enemy when they are making a mistake. Let them go for the whole shebang. It will force the courts to rule, or a more final result.

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wjackcooper · Jan 6, 2021

N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Corlett
(N.Y. carry - pending in the SC)

Something positive this AM:

Paul Clement is counsel for the petitioners in this case (thanks to N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. & the NRA). He stands out (magna *** laude Harvard Law and 100 Supreme Court cases, including Heller, argued) even among the elite.

For those who might think Mr. Clement may need help with the arguments , his email address is included below. *

Regards
Jack

https://www.kirkland.com/lawyers/c/clement-paul-d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Clement
https://www.kirkland.com/news/in-the-news/2020/10/2020-mvp_paul-clement

Steel Hunter · Jan 11, 2021

I'm not getting my hopes up until I see multiple 2A cases granted cert.

Kharn · Jan 11, 2021

Steel Hunter said:
I'm not getting my hopes up until I see multiple 2A cases granted cert.

At this point, a ruling on the merits is the only thing to get my hopes up.
Maybe a strongly worded per curiam, but that would just barely move the needle.

PlumberEd · Jan 12, 2021

I agree, but don't hold your breath for SCOTUS to do the right on the 2A. They will kick the can down the road.

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