Stripped lower purchases question

seungkoo · May 15, 2020

Not sure if they are considered regulated. Can you purchase more than 1 within a30 day period?
I happened to purchase my 3rd one and trying to pick up my 2nd but my 77r has not been approved yet (8th day)

esqappellate · May 15, 2020

seungkoo said:
Not sure if they are considered regulated. Can you purchase more than 1 within a30 day period?
I happened to purchase my 3rd one and trying to pick up my 2nd but my 77r has not been approved yet (8th day)

The MSP (rightly or wrongly) views a full stripped lower (not a 80% lower) as a regulated firearm just like a pistol, as it can be built into a pistol. All the rules applicable to pistols are thus applicable to such a lower.

EDIT: All the rules EXCEPT you don't need an HQL to buy a lower.

MEGARMS · May 15, 2020

esqappellate said:
The MSP (rightly or wrongly) views a full stripped lower (not a 80% lower) as a regulated firearm just like a pistol, as it can be built into a pistol. All the rules applicable to pistols are thus applicable to such a lower.

Not quite. You do not need an HQL.

esqappellate · May 15, 2020

MEGARMS said:
Not quite. You do not need an HQL.

oh, that is quite right! Thanks.

grimnar15 · May 15, 2020

Become a Designated collector and you can buy as many as you like. Still have to wait 7 days though.

blankford · May 15, 2020

Any LGS have them in stock right now? I'm in Columbia. Hanover Armory said they aren't selling stripped lowers right now since they source all their own lowers and are keeping them for "builds".
Basically complete guns they put together and hang on their wall for sale. Seems kind of silly to me, they'd probably sell ten lowers at $60 a pop for every one $800 gun.

kalister1 · May 15, 2020

Check with 2ASales, the last time I was in there Mark had some Spikes Tactical lowers in the case.

blankford · May 15, 2020

kalister1 said:
Check with 2ASales, the last time I was in there Mark had some Spikes Tactical lowers in the case.

Did you see a price on them?

kalister1 · May 15, 2020

I want to say $120 or so. Please don't quote me as I am not sure. I was not there to buy one I just saw them in the case.

blankford · May 15, 2020

kalister1 said:
I want to say $120 or so. Please don't quote me as I am not sure. I was not there to buy one I just saw them in the case.

Thanks!

ted76 · May 15, 2020

South Carol Sporting Goods has some in stock and are open tomorrow. He is an IP here.

blankford · May 15, 2020

ted76 said:
South Carol Sporting Goods has some in stock and are open tomorrow. He is an IP here.

Does he have weekday hours? It'll be much easier for me to get over there sometime M-F.

Nickberg500 · May 15, 2020

esqappellate said:
The MSP (rightly or wrongly) views a full stripped lower (not a 80% lower) as a regulated firearm just like a pistol, as it can be built into a pistol. All the rules applicable to pistols are thus applicable to such a lower.

EDIT: All the rules EXCEPT you don't need an HQL to buy a lower.

Only for stripped lowers compatible with .223/5.56 right?

Nickberg500 · May 15, 2020

seungkoo said:
Not sure if they are considered regulated. Can you purchase more than 1 within a30 day period?

I happened to purchase my 3rd one and trying to pick up my 2nd but my 77r has not been approved yet (8th day)

Hi seungkoo, could you please post in the introductions forum? Noticed your post count's a little low, we like to have our members introduce themselves and strive for a post count of 50 or more.

ted76 · May 15, 2020

blankford said:
Does he have weekday hours? It'll be much easier for me to get over there sometime M-F.

We He is usually open on Wednesday evenings, from 6 to 8.

SPQM · May 15, 2020

esqappellate said:
The MSP (rightly or wrongly) views a full stripped lower (not a 80% lower) as a regulated firearm just like a pistol, as it can be built into a pistol. All the rules applicable to pistols are thus applicable to such a lower.

What about a completed lower with an appropriate stock (pistol or rifle) installed? Would a completed lower with a standard collapsible rifle stock be treated as a rifle?

esqappellate · May 15, 2020

Nickberg500 said:
Only for stripped lowers compatible with .223/5.56 right?

The MSP applies it’s view to all lowers

esqappellate · May 15, 2020

SPQM said:
What about a completed lower with an appropriate stock (pistol or rifle) installed? Would a completed lower with a standard collapsible rifle stock be treated as a rifle?

A completed lower is either a rifle, or a pistol, or a SBR, depending on barrel length and overall length and whether, in the case of a sbr, it has a stock

Nickberg500 · May 15, 2020

esqappellate said:
The MSP applies it’s view to all lowers

Hm. I've been seeing everyone across MDS say AR-9/AR-10 lowers are cash and carry, I'm a little confused now.

danb · May 15, 2020

I was under the impression that 556 receivers were 77r (regulated) essentially because "frame or receiver" of a regulated firearm was also a regulated firearm (see section 5-101, definition of regulated firearm and definition of firearm which includes the frame or receiver). So its not because they can be "made into pistols," its because they are the frame or receiver an enumerated firearm on the list.

308 lowers are being treated cash and carry because they are not the lower of any enumerated firearm.

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