HB 0092/ SB0113

randomuser · Feb 4, 2019

dgapilot said:
Yet right on the face of the $1 bill, “This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private”

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At the end of the day....here and throughout the world...whoever has the most guns gets to make the rules. Apparently they made the rule....perhaps they are going by the poll in the other thread:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=232155

Schipperke · Feb 4, 2019

randomuser said:
At the end of the day....here and throughout the world...whoever has the most guns gets to make the rules. Apparently they made the rule....perhaps they are going by the poll in the other thread:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=232155

Damned if you do, damned if you don't?

Good read on it for sure.

ironpony · Feb 4, 2019

randomuser said:
At the end of the day....here and throughout the world...whoever has the most guns gets to make the rules. Apparently they made the rule....perhaps they are going by the poll in the other thread:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=232155

This was my first thought after seeing all of the .gov agencies that are carry eligible, as well as being exempt from all the restrictions of which citizens may be jailed for!

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

Sorry to derail the thread, no dog in this fight either, carry on my ccw friends ... "If you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin

lazarus · Feb 4, 2019

tangent said:
Sorry, I'm confused. Does MD have a open carry bill?

As in is it legal? For long guns yes. Though actually, I don't know that there is anything in COMAR making concealed carrying of a long gun illegal, other than looking like a dumbass with your rifle or shotgun shoved under a jacket or down your pants leg.

Only exception is you can't open carry at a protest. Or I should say, police can tell you to pack it up and take it home/away. If they do, you have to take it home or at least 1 mile from the protest.

Handguns you can OC, but only hunting, shooting range, dog training, national guard/armed forces duty, police officer, gunsmith repair, buy or sell. Oh, or hunter education classes.

Schipperke · Feb 4, 2019

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2019RS/fnotes/bil_0002/hb0092.pdf

Background: The Department of State Police (DSP) advises that an automated process
for handgun permit applications is expected to be operational soon and that once that
process is operational, DSP will be able to take payments for handgun permit fees with
credit cards through the online application process.

BeoBill · Feb 4, 2019

zoostation said:
More than likely someone whined to her about a stopped-payment on a check that happened once five years ago if at all and this is Cankles' typical "How Dare They!" overreaction.

Or a "Campaign Contribution" from, say, Visa?

daggo66 · Feb 4, 2019

lazarus said:
As in is it legal? For long guns yes. Though actually, I don't know that there is anything in COMAR making concealed carrying of a long gun illegal, other than looking like a dumbass with your rifle or shotgun shoved under a jacket or down your pants leg.

Only exception is you can't open carry at a protest. Or I should say, police can tell you to pack it up and take it home/away. If they do, you have to take it home or at least 1 mile from the protest.

Handguns you can OC, but only hunting, shooting range, dog training, national guard/armed forces duty, police officer, gunsmith repair, buy or sell. Oh, or hunter education classes.

You can OC a handgun with a MD WC permit.

Biggfoot44 · Feb 4, 2019

Concealed long guns would be under 4-101 .

lazarus · Feb 4, 2019

Biggfoot44 said:
Concealed long guns would be under 4-101 .

Ahh, thanks!

That would mean I could carry one concealed as a precaution against apprehended danger.

But would otherwise prohibit the carrying of a long gun concealed. Or anything more than a folding knife concealed.

lazarus · Feb 4, 2019

daggo66 said:
You can OC a handgun with a MD WC permit.

Sorry, I forgot. Hard to rememebr when so few people are allowed a W&C in MD

Biggfoot44 · Feb 4, 2019

Ah , not quite .

A long gun would be treated similar to a fixed blade knife . You can carry openly w/o requiring a specific reason . ( Except subject to grandfathered local ordinances , and the statute about loaded firearms in vehicles .) But concealment is still a no-no , even if you are apprehending your danger )

* All the above is discussing the Statutes . It is not a blanket recommendation for what to do in real life , nor an organizing call for an LGOC Event at this time . *

lemmdus · Feb 6, 2019

tangent said:
Sorry, I'm confused. Does MD have a open carry bill?

Open carry bill in MD, that a good one. :lol2:

esqappellate · Feb 6, 2019

Here is the link to MSI testimony on HB 113 and HB 114

https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/legislation-tracker

lemmdus · Feb 6, 2019

Chances are Dumass could be putting this bill in now because they are scared that the SCOTUS will end the whole "good and substantial" and force states like MD to become "shall issue" if they even allow that. In that case they can make life very difficult if the Secretary requires payment in some strange or non-existent currency like Roman Drachma.

Whatever she is proposing, unless its Constitutional Carry and written in plain language, oppose it.

Schipperke · Feb 6, 2019

Lets keep payment methods 1960's style.. good bye online applications.

CypherPunk · Feb 6, 2019

Schipperke said:
Lets keep payment methods 1960's style.. good bye online applications.

Are you really pro 2A, or are you just here to sew discord?

Schipperke · Feb 6, 2019

CypherPunk said:
Are you really pro 2A, or are you just here to sew discord?

That's what you think of Michael Hough now? Maybe they can amend it to take bitcoin.. happy then?

Biggfoot44 · Feb 7, 2019

Options are Good ! By all means open up the process * Additional * methods of payment .

If I'm not mistaken , the credit card only methodology for HQL is one of the points in the HQL Lawsuit . And the reasoning is even more compelling in light of the increasingly politicized Banking/ Credit Card industry , with leading players refusing to handle certain transactions for political reasons .

Added - Since I brought up one of the MSI court cases , I'll add another entreaty to donate to the MSI Legal Fund , which goes 100% to Legal Costs .

Schipperke · Feb 22, 2019

Sen. Cory McCray (D-Baltimore City) amended the Bill for gun folks. Credit Cards were added to previous statute. Disaster averted!

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