HB 0092/ SB0113

Biggfoot44 · Feb 2, 2019

Allow other forms of payment for W&C application and renewals . Seems nuetral at first glance , but it's sponsored by Dumais , is there any downsides I'm missing ?

shootin the breeze · Feb 2, 2019

Biggfoot44 said:
Allow other forms of payment for W&C application and renewals . Seems nuetral at first glance , but it's sponsored by Dumais , is there any downsides I'm missing ?

I haven’t read it yet but I’m pretty sure if it’s sponsored by dumbass there’s (plenty of) downside to it.

Schipperke · Feb 2, 2019

Retired state and county cops get W&C permit free. The rest of us pay for them in a manner however the licensing department requires.
If MSP starts doing this all online, it may go to Credit Card only? The conditions currently may be why the online application notice myth keeps getting turned in to vapor

The applicant [may] SHALL pay a fee under this section by [a personal check, 10
business check, certified check, or money order] A METHOD OF PAYMENT APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY

SCV/SAR Patriot · Feb 2, 2019

Biggfoot44 said:
Allow other forms of payment for W&C application and renewals . Seems nuetral at first glance , but it's sponsored by Dumais , is there any downsides I'm missing ?

The state generates an inordinate amount of revenue from all the wear and carry permits they issue in this state and probably difficult for them to keep up with all the activity and this will make the process go so much easier for us. So nice of them to do this.

:bowdown:

TapRackBang · Feb 3, 2019

What if the secretary decides the only "not disapproved" payment method is Rai stones?

Adolph Oliver Bush · Feb 3, 2019

They can make credit card payment the only option.
Credit card companies are pressured to stop helping people get guns.
No one can use a credit card for anything gun related.
No one can get a wear and carry permit.

The end.

Adolph Oliver Bush · Feb 3, 2019

shootin the breeze said:
I haven’t read it yet but I’m pretty sure if it’s sponsored by dumbass there’s (plenty of) downside to it.

Always a safe bet.

Magnumst · Feb 3, 2019

Adolph Oliver Bush said:
They can make credit card payment the only option.

Credit card companies are pressured to stop helping people get guns.

No one can use a credit card for anything gun related.

No one can get a wear and carry permit.

The end.

I can see this coming down the pike! And in this state where your W&C is a privilege a court battle would be a waste of money.

Clovis · Feb 3, 2019

I would have guessed going from "may" to "shall" was her(Dumais) trying to rub some of our noses in that change, but looking at the sponsors of SB0113 I'm not so sure.

WeaponsCollector · Feb 3, 2019

CypherPunk · Feb 3, 2019

Things necessary to register to vote:
Nothing.

Things needed to exercise 2A, inalienable rights:
Computer
ISP
Email
Internet Explorer
Adobe
Credit Card
Scanner
Hours of Training
Range
Instructor
Troopers to “approve” your application.
Days, weeks, or months to process

Oppose Dumass’s bill.

Schipperke · Feb 3, 2019

Many have noticed MSP with notices of online W&C applications coming soon. This was originally posted as 2018 https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/PublishingImages/HGP Announcement Poster 4.jpg
The true bureaucracy of Government won't let them take credit cards as currently written. This Bill doesn't have to mean they'd go exclusively credit card, but sure they can if they want to. If the Bill is defeated, it makes the online application less convenient for most people. Who wants to keep the current method of business check, certified check or money order only?

zoostation · Feb 3, 2019

If it's hers maybe it lets people pay in North Korean and Cuban currency.

Schipperke · Feb 3, 2019

zoostation said:
If it's hers maybe it lets people pay in North Korean and Cuban currency.

A METHOD OF PAYMENT APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY

If everyone without a business is happy using certified checks and money orders, and letting the applications sit at the post office a few days before they pick them up, can probably defeat this Bill. If people want a Pyrrhic victory just amend the Bill adding credit card to the current three accepted methods. Then when technology comes up with even easier ways to pay, can't use those either.

zoostation · Feb 3, 2019

More than likely someone whined to her about a stopped-payment on a check that happened once five years ago if at all and this is Cankles' typical "How Dare They!" overreaction.

Not_an_outlaw · Feb 3, 2019

CypherPunk said:
Things necessary to register to vote:
Nothing.

Things needed to exercise 2A, inalienable rights:
Computer
ISP
Email
Internet Explorer
Adobe
Credit Card
Scanner
Hours of Training
Range
Instructor
Troopers to “approve” your application.
Days, weeks, or months to process

Oppose Dumass’s bill.

Add approved method of transportation.

CypherPunk · Feb 3, 2019

Do you know why the Maryland State a Police do not accept cash for transfers?

Theft.

Let that sink in.

montoya32 · Feb 3, 2019

CypherPunk said:
Do you know why the Maryland State a Police do not accept cash for transfers?

Theft.

Let that sink in.

So MSP can discriminate source of payment, but there is now a bill that prohibits landlords from discriminating source of income(drug dealer, section 8, vouchers) for tenants.

dgapilot · Feb 3, 2019

Yet right on the face of the $1 bill, “This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private”

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tangent · Feb 4, 2019

Sorry, I'm confused. Does MD have a open carry bill?

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