HR7115 Are you kidding me?

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  • KevinK

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 24, 2008
    4,973
    Carroll County, Md
    Basic text:

    H. R. 7115

    To prohibit the sale, acquisition, distribution in commerce, or import into the United States of certain firearm receiver castings or blanks, assault weapon parts kits, and machinegun parts kits and the marketing or advertising of such castings or blanks and kits on any medium of electronic communications, to require homemade firearms to have serial numbers, and for other purposes.
     

    Dave.B

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    May 15, 2011
    2,885
    So a detent spring is a prohibited item under this bill? Socialists are dumb. Anyone that supports this bill or voted for the sponsors of this bill can eat a bag of aids infected dicks.
     

    Fox123

    Ultimate Member
    May 21, 2012
    3,926
    Rosedale, MD
    the term ``semiautomatic assault weapon'' means--
    (A) a semiautomatic rifle or semiautomatic shotgun
    that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition
    feeding device;






    -So basically almost every semiauto rifle s an assault weapon....
     

    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 25, 2009
    13,866
    Rockville, MD
    Fascinating bill. It would essentially ban selling 80% receivers and parts kits, and require serials on everything else you build. They then double down on that by treating the issuance of the serial like a transfer, complete with NICS check.

    3D printer bypasses the first part, but not the serial bit.
     

    Kicken Wing

    Snakes and Sparklers
    Apr 5, 2014
    868
    WASH-CO
    I don't know what kind of a chance this has of being watered down and passing but I sure can see Maryland copying this word for word and running it up the flagpole. We already received the threat from Kathleen Dumbass several months ago stating her desire to draft legislation in regards to 80 percents and "ghost guns". This bill is an atrocity!
     

    SPQM

    Active Member
    May 21, 2014
    302
    Everyone, this bill must be studied carefully, as should be I-1639 in Washington State.

    They are exemplars of the new "Phase III" of gun control which is about to open upon us.

    Phase I lasted from about maybe 1933 to 2008. During this phase, they attempted to ban handguns completely, starting with efforts to have handguns be on the original National Firearms Act as initially proposed as Class III weapons; which would have killed the handgun market in the US completely.

    Later, they came back in the 1960s to 1980s, with their campaign to ban handguns or severely restrict them (Saturday Night Specials, Handgun Control Inc), etc. This phase ended in 2008 with Heller, which held that handguns were constitutionally protected.

    Phase II Started maybe around 1985 or so, with the fight against "assault weapons". Saw the first steps towards banning firearms accessories since 1934 (suppressors back then) with the emphasis on magazine capacity. Culminated in the Brady Bill.

    While we managed to sunset the AWB, the other aspects of the Brady Bill are in place -- such as the de facto registry known as NICS.

    If you believe NICS isn't saving data like "On such date, John Q Smith bought a rifle." I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

    For 25 years now, people have been conditioned to believe that "background checks are good", so Brady and Handgun Control got what they wanted, slow "long march" victory.

    But they failed in their initial attempt against "assault weapons" because they really did not know much about guns, and went stuff like "bayonet lugs are bad and evil", or in the MSP's case "if you change the caliber, it is no longer a clone"; so getting around AWBs was not that hard. (Look at some of the abortions in California to get around the various rules).

    Which leads me into Phase III....

    Phase III: While it was amusing to screw with gun banners by walking through their laws:

    "Oh I'm sorry, this AR15 is 7.62, it's not banned!"

    "Oh it's HBAR 5.56, it's not banned!"

    "I took this bayonet lug off, it's now not banned!"

    On one hand, we may have been our own worst enemy in 'educating' the Liberal intelligentsia on how guns kind of sort of worked.

    Now with I-1639 defining "semi auto assault weapons" as :

    (25) "Semiautomatic assault rifle" means any rifle which utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round, and which requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.

    and this bill defining "Semi Auto Assault Weapon" as:

    (4) the term “semiautomatic assault weapon” means—

    (A) a semiautomatic rifle or semiautomatic shotgun that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device; or

    (B) a semiautomatic pistol that has—

    (i) the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device; and

    (ii) any one of the features described in subsection (b);

    ...

    (b) Special Features Of A Semiautomatic Pistol.—The special features described in subsection (a)(3)(B)(ii) are—

    (1) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

    (2) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;

    (3) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

    (4) a second hand grip;

    (5) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

    (6) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

    You can see how the antis have learned and have gotten better.

    I find it very interesting that they are now more broadly defining semi automatic assault weapons in much more broad terms -- differing only in minor implementation -- they're working together behind the scenes via mailing lists to bounce ideas off each other and use the same language, so that their bills can be used to buttress other bills in other states.

    I bet you (trick bet) that within 6 months, other bills will be introduced that will cite the legality of I-1639 in why we need to ban "semi auto assault weapons" and use definitions very close to I-1639.

    On the other hand, I'm actually a bit surprised to see them make moves against semi autos so early -- these bills would pretty much ban Ruger 10/22s; which is a big "wake up" moment if there ever was any. I was never under any impression that they'd just stop pushing gun control ; but I'm just surprised at their abrupt accelerationism in trying to bring the end game that much closer.
     

    Kicken Wing

    Snakes and Sparklers
    Apr 5, 2014
    868
    WASH-CO
    Perhaps their abrupt pushing may work in our favor to some extent. I have often said that if all of us gun owners stuck together then half of this crap would not get passed in the first place. I-1639 is UGLY. And it PASSED?! Jeeez. This is the harshest, current definition of "assault weapon" to date. This bans a lot of stuff!
     

    zoostation

    , ,
    Moderator
    Jan 28, 2007
    22,857
    Abingdon
    Look at the bright side. It would have 17 sponsors but Hogan hasn't run for Congress yet. But in all seriousness, 16 sponsors, all of the ones I recognize being rabid gun-grabbers, doesn't mean much. Hopefully this bill dies in the bud.
     
    I enjoy your cavalier attitude on this board!

    And if more people told the government to piss up a rope there would be less of this crap. Instead a good number of people here cower in fear and would hand over their rights if ordered to do so. I sure am thankful our founding fathers, the continental army and the patriots that made up the militia thought like I do...
     

    jjones88

    Active Member
    Apr 4, 2013
    568
    Sykesville
    I generally never get concerned with their garbage but this one definitely is concerning if passed in MD. Forget the 80% lowers, this little nugget bans the purchase of parts.

    (a) Banned hazardous products.—Notwithstanding section 3(a)(5)(E) of the Consumer Product Safety Act (15 U.S.C. 2052(a)(5)(E)), the following shall be considered banned hazardous products under section 8 of such Act (15 U.S.C. 2057):

    (1) A firearm receiver casting or firearm receiver blank or unfinished handgun frame that—

    (A) at the point of sale does not meet the definition of a firearm in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code; and

    (B) after purchase by a consumer, can be completed by the consumer to the point at which such casting or blank functions as a firearm frame or receiver for a semiautomatic assault weapon or machinegun or the frame of a handgun.

    (2) An assault weapon parts kit.

    a) In general.—It shall be unlawful to market or advertise, on any medium of electronic communications, including over the Internet, for the sale of any of the following:

    (1) A firearm receiver casting or firearm receiver blank or unfinished handgun frame that—

    (A) at the point of sale does not meet the definition of a firearm in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code; and

    (B) after purchase by a consumer, can be completed by the consumer to the point at which such casting or blank functions as a firearm frame or receiver for a semiautomatic assault weapon or machinegun or the frame of a handgun.

    (2) An assault weapon parts kit.


    (2) the term “assault weapon parts kit” means any part or combination of parts designed and intended to enable a consumer who possesses all such necessary parts to assemble a semiautomatic assault weapon;

    So even people like me who can build a sten from parts from Home Depot, need a barrel or bolt... say good bye to that.

    Edit* Oh and they did that under USC so commerce clause... they are getting stupid smart.
     
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