Second Circuit NYC transport law upheld

press1280 · Jan 11, 2019

GlocksAndPatriots said:
In which case, I'll be probably confident that Roberts is the problem.

I'm curious if the court looks at any cases currently on the docket but have not been to a conference?

If so then they could kill 2 birds with one stone and take Rogers over this case.

Knuckle Dragger · Jan 11, 2019

GlocksAndPatriots said:
In which case, I'll be probably confident that Roberts is the problem.

Technically, on any of these cases there are at least five justices that are 'the problem'. Everyone's all tied up in knots over Roberts because he was the fifth vote to uphold the ACA. The truth is we don't know what's on the minds of these justices unless they pen a dissent in a denial. That only tells us one or two of the justice who voted to grant a petition. There could be another who chose not to write or join a dissent and it doesn't tell us who voted against and why.

There are nine individuals on this court and they all have very nuanced views. We may very well have five justices that have a similar view of carry or the AW bans, but they may have very different ideas about how to address those questions. One thing they know is that the cases will keep on coming.

It's also very possible that Roberts and other justices want to avoid the shitstrom that will follow with any AWB or carry decision. Forget about ACA or Citizens United. Any substantive Second Amendment decision they hand down will get a lot of people very, very angry.

press1280 said:
I'm curious if the court looks at any cases currently on the docket but have not been to a conference?

If so then they could kill 2 birds with one stone and take Rogers over this case.

I have no doubt that they are very aware of the cases making their way through the circuit courts.

press1280 · Jan 14, 2019

Not on the orders list again today.....

Kharn · Jan 14, 2019

No mention in the orders for today.

jcutonilli · Jan 14, 2019

Relisted for the 18th

https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-280.html

We will find out more then or Tues the 22nd.

motorcoachdoug · Jan 15, 2019

I wonder if SCOTUS is taking a look at this and might end up writing a Per Curiam???

Inigoes · Jan 15, 2019

An opinion or two is supposed to be released today.

Kharn · Jan 15, 2019

Per curiams, Grant-Vacate-Remand, etc, are released as part of the orders list at 0930 on Mondays, not with the merits decisions read in the courtroom at 1000 on various days.

danb · Jan 15, 2019

Knuckle Dragger said:
Technically, on any of these cases there are at least five justices that are 'the problem'. Everyone's all tied up in knots over Roberts because he was the fifth vote to uphold the ACA. The truth is we don't know what's on the minds of these justices unless they pen a dissent in a denial. That only tells us one or two of the justice who voted to grant a petition. There could be another who chose not to write or join a dissent and it doesn't tell us who voted against and why.

There are nine individuals on this court and they all have very nuanced views. We may very well have five justices that have a similar view of carry or the AW bans, but they may have very different ideas about how to address those questions. One thing they know is that the cases will keep on coming.

It's also very possible that Roberts and other justices want to avoid the shitstrom that will follow with any AWB or carry decision. Forget about ACA or Citizens United. Any substantive Second Amendment decision they hand down will get a lot of people very, very angry.

I have no doubt that they are very aware of the cases making their way through the circuit courts.

We've had dissents denial of cert - or a concurring opinion in Caetano -from Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch. IIRC Kavanaugh dissented in the D.C. AWB.

process of elimination, I also think Roberts is the problem. Ginsburg cannot retire soon enough for me, frankly.

krucam · Jan 15, 2019

Don't be surprised if the Court shuts down Friday due to funding...

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/12/federal-courts-limit-operations-amid-government-shutdown/

GlocksAndPatriots · Jan 15, 2019

danb said:
We've had dissents denial of cert - or a concurring opinion in Caetano -from Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch. IIRC Kavanaugh dissented in the D.C. AWB.

process of elimination, I also think Roberts is the problem. Ginsburg cannot retire soon enough for me, frankly.

Not to mention that they're all reliable conservatives. Roberts is the squishy piece of crap who cares about the court's "legacy," and since the "legacy" is shaped by the liberal media, it means he doesn't want to rock the boat too much. Which in the end means caving on everything important.

As for Ginsburg, replace "retire" with "kick the bucket."

GlocksAndPatriots · Jan 16, 2019

Knuckle Dragger said:
Technically, on any of these cases there are at least five justices that are 'the problem'. Everyone's all tied up in knots over Roberts because he was the fifth vote to uphold the ACA. The truth is we don't know what's on the minds of these justices unless they pen a dissent in a denial. That only tells us one or two of the justice who voted to grant a petition. There could be another who chose not to write or join a dissent and it doesn't tell us who voted against and why.

There are nine individuals on this court and they all have very nuanced views. We may very well have five justices that have a similar view of carry or the AW bans, but they may have very different ideas about how to address those questions. One thing they know is that the cases will keep on coming.

It's also very possible that Roberts and other justices want to avoid the shitstrom that will follow with any AWB or carry decision. Forget about ACA or Citizens United. Any substantive Second Amendment decision they hand down will get a lot of people very, very angry.

I have no doubt that they are very aware of the cases making their way through the circuit courts.

And we're getting angrier and angrier at their ignoring the Constitution. Notice how conservatives rolled over when the Supreme Court ruled that men who like to sodomize other men are entitled to "marriage" licenses.

randomuser · Jan 16, 2019

GlocksAndPatriots said:
And we're getting angrier and angrier at their ignoring the Constitution. Notice how conservatives rolled over when the Supreme Court ruled that men who like to sodomize other men are entitled to "marriage" licenses.

Tell me the last time the American people didn't roll over?

I posted this in another post on another topic, but it's pretty applicable here too.
People forget about stuff like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 About gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...nese_Americans Japanese Americans in 1942

Those are just a few times (it's easy to come up with a much longer list) where the American people have rolled over on stuff you would not think they would roll over on.

I'm being serious and genuinely wondering the answer as I'm pondering myself. can you answer this>>

***When was the last time the American people did not just roll over and what was the issue about?***

GlocksAndPatriots · Jan 16, 2019

randomuser said:
Tell me the last time the American people didn't roll over?

I posted this in another post on another topic, but it's pretty applicable here too.
People forget about stuff like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 About gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...nese_Americans Japanese Americans in 1942

Those are just a few times where the American people have rolled over on stuff you would not think they would roll over on.

I'm being serious and genuinely wondering the answer as I'm pondering myself. can you answer this>>

***When was the last time the American people did not just roll over and what was the issue about?***

They'll continue to do so as long as they're comfortable and fed. Once the dollar collapses, all bets are off.

jcutonilli · Jan 16, 2019

GlocksAndPatriots said:
And we're getting angrier and angrier at their ignoring the Constitution. Notice how conservatives rolled over when the Supreme Court ruled that men who like to sodomize other men are entitled to "marriage" licenses.

"accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. "

rascal · Jan 17, 2019

danb said:
We've had dissents denial of cert - or a concurring opinion in Caetano -from Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch. IIRC Kavanaugh dissented in the D.C. AWB.

process of elimination, I also think Roberts is the problem. Ginsburg cannot retire soon enough for me, frankly.

If Trump doesn't win, the more likely scenario is Ginsburg goes 22 more months and Dem in the White House replaces Thomas eventually who at 70 and with some health issues has higher than average odds of retiring/dying over that four or eight years. Then you will see a slew of cases including sharp limits on Heller or a reversal. At least half a dozen shall issue states would go may issue prably putting the majority of the country in may issue regime

There are not enough votes to actually remove Ginsburg if she gets bedridden or even in a coma as a majority in the house (not going to happen) and a super majority in the senate would be needed to remove her.

Roberts like any judge who can play the middle will play it since this gives him more power, and power intoxicates.

jcutonilli · Jan 18, 2019

jcutonilli said:
Relisted for the 18th

https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-280.html

We will find out more then or Tues the 22nd.

No new grants announced today. Tuesday is the next time more information will be available.

wolfwood · Jan 22, 2019

Just a couple hours and we find out

danb · Jan 22, 2019

GRANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bannana:

Holy ****, I had to check twice i could not believe it

krucam · Jan 22, 2019

GRANT!!

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