Request for information: bayonet

R81 · Jan 16, 2017

A friend has this bayonet which she knows nothing about. It is not marked. Can anyone ID it? Any idea on value? Thanks.

Boom Boom · Jan 16, 2017

Looks French, like one from a M1892 Berthier or older Chassepot. Not exactly like either from what I can tell, though.

rifelman · Jan 16, 2017

Could it be Japanese? Scabbard looks US though, like long Garand/ 1903

Boom Boom · Jan 16, 2017

Yeah, Japanese Type 99 short rifle except the scabbard is wrong.

Alphabrew · Jan 16, 2017

Probably Japanese, does it have any of these markings on it?:

WeaponsCollector · Jan 16, 2017

Definitely Type 30 bayonet for the Japanese Type 99 rifle with what's left of an American scabbard. Worth $50-$100 without the original scabbard.

ohen cepel · Jan 16, 2017

I think part of the scabbard is stuck to the blade and hiding the markings.

Early Japanese bayonet as others have said.

KH195 · Jan 16, 2017

Yep Japanese Type 30 bayonet for the Type 38/99 rifles. There is a piece of the US scabbard that looks to have detached and is stuck around the blade near the hilt. Underneath you will find one of the manufacturer marks from the pic Alpahbrew posted.

Edit: beat me by one minute ohen cepel!

lee2 · Jan 16, 2017

i think its worth a bit more that $50.
but you gotta toss the scabbard.

KH195 · Jan 16, 2017

Also, unless a rare variation, value is around $50 without the correct scabbard.

rifelman · Jan 16, 2017

Soooo, I'm interested if you decide to sell

R81 · Jan 16, 2017

Thanks for the information, Gentlemen.
I'll have my friend check for markings.
Not sure if she is interested in selling, but I'll check.

KH195 · Jan 16, 2017

Here's what the correct scabbard looks like (I have a huge pile of these for my Arisakas, turns out I have one of the similar variation as your friend). Manufacturer mark will be on right side of the blade and there will be a serial number on the end cap of the handle.

Alphabrew · Jan 18, 2017

ohen cepel said:
I think part of the scabbard is stuck to the blade and hiding the markings.

Early Japanese bayonet as others have said.

Ah! That part of the scabbard stuck to the bayonet was really confusing me!!! None of the Japanese bayonets in my book had that. DUH!!

dad4 · Jan 18, 2017

Agree, type 30 Japanese bayonet. With curled quilion puts it pre 1937. Would fit type 30 and 99 rifles aND has improper scabbard. If not sharpened would be considered a trainer bayonet. Value = $60 / $100.

R81 · Jan 22, 2017

It has the two symbols shown in #2 in the book: "unknown private company under Kokura Aresenal supervision." Serial number is 90277. Is this a rare or common
variation? Thanks.

KH195 · Jan 22, 2017

R81 said:
It has the two symbols shown in #2 in the book: "unknown private company under Kokura Aresenal supervision." Serial number is 90277. Is this a rare or common
variation? Thanks.

Fairly common manufacturer/variation as far as T30s go, believed to be Hikari Seiki Seisakusho Arsenal under supervision of Kokura, or often referred to by collectors as "Kokura hourglass" markings. They produced both bright and blued bladed variations totaling around six series consisting of 100k bayonets per series. The Type 30s that bring the big money are the very late war "pole" bayonets, shortened paratrooper variations, "Osaka", "naval specials", etc. and several others.

R81 · Jan 23, 2017

Thanks, KH195. I appreciate your help and expertise. Thanks to others who responded, also.
The owner wants to sell the bayonet, so this is a heads up to anyone who might be interested. I'll list it tomorrow evening between 7pm and 8pm.
Asking price: $100 or best offer. You would have to pick it up at my house in Towson.

Drmsparks · Jan 24, 2017

The scabbard is worth a good deal too. 16" US scabbards are not easy to find....They just don't belong together....

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