State parks are a no go. National parks in MD are a go go.
Now where is Chuck Brown and the Soul Searchers when you need him?
Carrying In National Parks
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State parks are a no go. National parks in MD are a go go.
Now where is Chuck Brown and the Soul Searchers when you need him?
What rank stupidity. Pure hoplophobia. What's the police response time in a state park vs your average city (if your cell phone even has reception)? (rhetorical)
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
Maryland can't regulate federal/national parks. But you are correct about state parks.
can you provide the cite that prohibits carry in National Parks? how can MD law cover Federal property?
A MD Hunter's permit with furbearer's tag would permit (presumably open) handgun carry in some state parks/forests where hunting is permitted. Coyotes can be hunted year round, from dawn to dusk for part of the year, and 24 hrs a day for the other part. Some counties restrict hunting on Sundays. Look here for more information ...
http://www.eregulations.com/maryland/hunting/furbearers/
http://www.eregulations.com/maryland/hunting/furbearers/
I was mistaken and just looked it up. Apparently, if you can carry in the area juat outside the federal park then you can carry in the park.
Incorrect. National Parks enforce state law through assimilation under 36 CFR 4.2
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/4.2
Correct. Under the Credit Card Act of 2009(it was a rider), National Parks assimilate the state gun laws of the state the park is located in. In the case of a National Park that is in two different states, each section of park in the different states enforces that state's gun laws. Stay on the PA side of the Delaware water gap.
The 2009 act does not override 18 usc 930. One is still not allowed to carry a firearm in a federal facility regularly occupied by federal employees.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_CARD_Act_of_2009
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USCODE-2011-title18/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap44-sec930/content-detail.html
thank you!!!!!! was trying to remember the act that does this for federal enclaves within states. tried to google it but didnt remember the name until your post and it was driving me crazy trying to remember.
Cold Steel
Active Member
It's a card people with disabilities get that get them in free.
It's been awhile since I've looked into this, but years ago I was told by a ranger that in his opinion it wasn't safe to go into areas with bears and other dangerous animals without a gun (he recommended a .357). He told me he wasn't advocating anything, but that if I carried a gun, to keep it well concealed, don't drink or smoke dope and to keep my nose clean.
Since then, the law has changed so that if one has a CCW permit in Virginia, one can carry in a national park in Virginia. BUT not Maryland. Only if you have a permit in Maryland. So I'm thinking about getting a Virginia permit and then vacationing in Virginia (I already buy my gas there). So no laws would be broken.
It used to be a misdemeanor for carrying a gun illegally in most places. Now it's a felony. In Maryland, I reckon we need to stick to bear spray.
BTW, what's a W&C permit?
Cold Steel
Active Member
So the Park Service does enforce state laws.
And since open carry is permitted in Virginia, can one open carry in Virginia national parks?
Where does one get a W&C permit? Is this the same as a CCW permit?
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
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1972 . Goes back to the creation of the Permit scheme.
The Federal Govt does not enforce state gun law. The Federal law becomes whatever the state's law is.
If a state allows unlicensed OC, then it's legal in the NP located in that state.
If a state allows unlicensed OC, then it's legal in the NP located in that state.
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And according to Doogie Gansler, long gun OC in a NP would be legal as well.
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
You'd have a better chance at pulling this off without being shot around U.S. Park police and/or NPS rangers than you would around most Maryland police agencies.
absolutely
