Looking For An FFL In MD With A CNC Machine

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  • ShooterJT

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Apr 9, 2014
    12
    Hi All. Does anyone know an 07 FFL in Maryland who has a CNC machine and may make lowers? Thanks.
     

    ShooterJT

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Apr 9, 2014
    12
    The perception of what you are asking for

    What kind of lowers? legal or illegal?

    An AR lower. I know they are illegal in MD, but I am looking for an 07 FFL so they can machine a piece of metal I have, then build the whole rifle and sell it to me, which is legal.
     

    Magnumite

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 17, 2007
    6,564
    Harford County, Maryland
    Wow, that can be tough to work with. Curious about what advantages you are seeking over the forged aluminum? Durability seems the greatest advantage. Good luck in your quest.

    If a smith is creating components, assembling/fitting complete firearms, that FFL now becomes a manufacturer. Excise taxes must be charged. The 1911 world went through this a couple years ago and some professional 1911 smiths are doing things differently.

    Not sure about the bolt together nature of the AR platform. Not sure about the technicalities of an 07 FFL. Then there is Maryland SB281. Let us know how it goes.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    Wouldn't this fall into the same category as an 80%? Manufacturing a banned firearm IS illegal, hence the reason 80% are frowned upon in this state now.

    No, if a manufacturer: machines, serializes, records, and pays tax on said lower that will be created into a legal long gun.

    Engage is basically doing this with their E4 platform
     

    Kingjamez

    Gun Builder
    Oct 22, 2009
    2,042
    Fairfax, VA

    I hope your pockets are deep.

    Having built a Titanium AR-15 lower, I know that the effort required is high, the tooling costs will be high, and the machine time will be long. I can't see getting a Ti lower cut for less than 10x the price of an aluminum one.

    Do you have all of the CAD/CAM done? Custom CAM needs to be done for whatever machine you'll be working on... that's gonna be expensive if you can't do it yourself. Even if you can, I wouldn't let anybody run their CAM on my machine.

    After having finished my Ti AR, I've come to realize why nobody else does it. There is zero advantage over 7075 Aluminum, except the cool factor. Titanium is 1.6x heavier than Aluminum, so unless you draw up a new design to thin the features of the lower you'll have a heavier gun. 7075 doesn't wear out after hundreds of thousands of rounds, so the durability advantage is nearly zero. If you do go with a new design to actually take advantage of Ti, then your costs for new fixtures and even more custom CAM are going to be very very high.

    -Jim
     

    precisionfire

    Active Member
    May 20, 2011
    385
    Martinsburg WV
    I hope your pockets are deep.

    Having built a Titanium AR-15 lower, I know that the effort required is high, the tooling costs will be high, and the machine time will be long. I can't see getting a Ti lower cut for less than 10x the price of an aluminum one.

    Do you have all of the CAD/CAM done? Custom CAM needs to be done for whatever machine you'll be working on... that's gonna be expensive if you can't do it yourself. Even if you can, I wouldn't let anybody run their CAM on my machine.

    After having finished my Ti AR, I've come to realize why nobody else does it. There is zero advantage over 7075 Aluminum, except the cool factor. Titanium is 1.6x heavier than Aluminum, so unless you draw up a new design to thin the features of the lower you'll have a heavier gun. 7075 doesn't wear out after hundreds of thousands of rounds, so the durability advantage is nearly zero. If you do go with a new design to actually take advantage of Ti, then your costs for new fixtures and even more custom CAM are going to be very very high.

    -Jim

    :thumbsup:
     

    BigSteve57

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 14, 2011
    3,245
    Wow. Now I want a gold lower

    It's been done:

    For Trade: Custom Delton Ar15 in Gold Perlite
    http://www.armslist.com/posts/44915...for-trade--custom-delton-ar15-in-gold-perlite

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    Mexican drug cartels’ golden guns on museum display at El Museo de Enervantes in Mexico City
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...olden-guns-showcased-museum-article-1.2124825
     

    mdflyer

    Member
    Nov 19, 2015
    62
    I want a AR10 blued steel receiver set anyone have suggestions on someone currently making them? yes I know it will be heavy, part of the reason I want it..
     

    j_h_smith

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 28, 2007
    28,516
    How many CNC posts are we up to now? Sure seems like they're coming out of the woodworks.
     

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