NRA suspends Chris Cox in alleged coup attempt

Boondock Saint · Jun 20, 2019

Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.

BeoBill · Jun 20, 2019

Boondock Saint said:
Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.

Concur. And beware stupid people in large numbers.

It seems to me that this is yet another symptom of the oligarchs trying to "fundamentally remake" America.

Biggfoot44 · Jun 20, 2019

Neal Knox and Harlon Carter are spinning in their graves .

Bring on Cincinnati 2.0 .

fidelity · Jun 20, 2019

Sheesh. The fish rots from the head. Get rid of LaPierre, and get new legal representation that doesn't suck the NRA dry. They're going to be an impotent force in the 2020 election, a situation that Bloomberg will exploit.

Boondock Saint · Jun 21, 2019

BeoBill said:
Concur. And beware stupid people in large numbers.

It seems to me that this is yet another symptom of the oligarchs trying to "fundamentally remake" America.

Winner...

Biggfoot44 said:
Neal Knox and Harlon Carter are spinning in their graves .

Bring on Cincinnati 2.0 .

Winner...

fidelity said:
Sheesh. The fish rots from the head. Get rid of LaPierre, and get new legal representation that doesn't suck the NRA dry. They're going to be an impotent force in the 2020 election, a situation that Bloomberg will exploit.

Chicken. Dinner.

Dogface · Jun 21, 2019

XCheckR said:
What if this is all a continuation of the larger plan to divide the country.

Do a little research on LaPierre's spending, and you may be satisfied that it isn't any external conspiracy.

sgt23preston · Jun 21, 2019

fidelity said:
Sheesh. The fish rots from the head. Get rid of LaPierre, and get new legal representation that doesn't suck the NRA dry. They're going to be an impotent force in the 2020 election, a situation that Bloomberg will exploit.

I don't think the NRA will be able to resolve their internal issues in time to do anything valuable for the 2020 Presidential Elections...

In fact we may be witnessing the death of the NRA's power as the Dems move closer to TOTAL GUN CONTROL while the NRA has an internal fight to the death...

BradyWarrior · Jun 21, 2019

Wayne’s dong must weigh 10 pounds to show Cox the door.

Boondock Saint · Jun 21, 2019

Hickok45 has bailed on them. Or perhaps more accurately, the NRA bailed on all of us.

TheBert · Jun 21, 2019

rbird7282 said:
While I'm a member, I'm not totally knowledgeable about the internal power struggle going on. Whatever it is, the NRA needs to get their shit together, and FAST.

The NRA is just like government, you get an entrenched bureaucracy who are only concerned with protecting their cushy jobs. A general cleansing of the staff is needed every once in a while.

Moyaone · Jun 21, 2019

Allen West for President of the NRA. Great resume. Has put his country first in more ways than most. Appears to be a selfless public servant, and I do think there are a few of them (us) out there. I'm sure you are all aware of how his Army career ended, but check out Iraqi torture incident in link below. The guy ain't afraid to make the tough decisions. As a life member for several decades, I believe the NRA needs some tough decisions made if they want to survive this bloodletting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_(politician)

Sundancer · Jun 21, 2019

Even more bizarre stuff about the NRA & Ackerman McQueen

https://theresurgent.com/2019/06/21/hey-nra-this-seems-like-a-really-big-deal/

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Sirex · Jun 21, 2019

I am not renewing my NRA membership until Wayne is gone. I support them as the left's punching bag scapegoat, but I think GOA is more serious about 2A defense.

balttigger · Jun 22, 2019

Sundancer said:
Even more bizarre stuff about the NRA & Ackerman McQueen

https://theresurgent.com/2019/06/21/hey-nra-this-seems-like-a-really-big-deal/

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Now, why would anyone associated to the NRA donate to and support anti-gun Democrats? They can't wring their hands over the boogeyman in Washington....then stick those hands out and beg for more money. They send letter after letter and email after email screaming that they need your funds to fight the very same people they helped put into office. Then they spread that money around to each other while the ILA languishes with a total budget that is less than Wayne's salary and "perks".

Nah.

The board needs to be cut by 75% and term limits instituted. They should also allow donations to be sent directly to the ILA and only used for legal issues. SAF and GOA are working circles around them in this arena.

GOG-MD · Jun 22, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
The Dems and other anti-gun forces are loving this. All they need to do is stand by and let the NRA destroy itself. While there are other gun rights organizations, the NRA is the heavyweight and takes most of the punches. With all this going on look for the Dems to be more aggressive in attempting to gun grab...overtly and covertly in Congress and the states.

Exactly this. With an NRA in turmoil, expect the gun grabbers to go for our jugular and shove as many anti-gun bills as possible down our nation's collective throat. I'm worried about 2020.

Until the NRA sorts itself out though, I'll be sending the money I would've given them to GOA and SAF.

moose&squirrel · Jun 22, 2019

I wouldn't mind supporting a national firearms association whose sole goals are to promote training and safety, and isn't involved in politics or big-time money-raising or politics.

Occam · Jun 22, 2019

moose&squirrel said:
I wouldn't mind supporting a national firearms association whose sole goals are to promote training and safety, and isn't involved in politics or big-time money-raising or politics.

You’re describing the NRA. Of course they have to raise money in order to function. The NRA that gets involved in politics isn’t the NRA. There are two additional organizations, essentially completely separate animals:

The NRA-PVF (political victory fund) is a classic PAC. They run election season ads and whatnot in hopes of steering election results in a way that favors liberty in general and 2A protection in particular.

The NRA-ILA (institute for legal action) is the separate organization that spends money putting lawyers on cases that might have outcomes favorable to our usual interests.

Are either of these organizations pitch perfect in their choices of lobbying or litigation targets and strategies? No, of course not. But they are very heavy hitters working in our camp. This is SEPARATE from the membership organization and all of the things it does or doesn’t do, and the associated current drama.

Regardless of where one stands on the people, priorities, and specific activities of each of these three entities, it’s important to understand that they are separate. The ILF and PVF are as separate from the NRA membership organization as the GOA or SAF are.

hodgepodge · Jun 22, 2019

I seriously hope they get this crap sorted out. Dump Ack-Mack. Dump LaPierre.

It's only hurting the NRA, and that's strengthening other folks.

sleepingdino · Jun 22, 2019

Maybe Cox was right to try to dump LaPierre? For the good of the second amendment, LaPierre and his ad agency cronies should step aside.

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adv_rider · Jun 26, 2019

Occam said:
You’re describing the NRA. Of course they have to raise money in order to function. The NRA that gets involved in politics isn’t the NRA. There are two additional organizations, essentially completely separate animals:

The NRA-PVF (political victory fund) is a classic PAC. They run election season ads and whatnot in hopes of steering election results in a way that favors liberty in general and 2A protection in particular.

The NRA-ILA (institute for legal action) is the separate organization that spends money putting lawyers on cases that might have outcomes favorable to our usual interests.

Are either of these organizations pitch perfect in their choices of lobbying or litigation targets and strategies? No, of course not. But they are very heavy hitters working in our camp. This is SEPARATE from the membership organization and all of the things it does or doesn’t do, and the associated current drama.

Regardless of where one stands on the people, priorities, and specific activities of each of these three entities, it’s important to understand that they are separate. The ILF and PVF are as separate from the NRA membership organization as the GOA or SAF are.

So do NRA membership funds only fund the NRA membership organization, or do they also supply funds to NRA-PVF and NRA-ILA? If funds are shared, I'd hesitate to call all these organizations separate. I honestly do not know how NRA membership funds are allocated. I think an accurate breakout of funding for the various NRA entities would be pretty interesting, but like most large organizations and businesses I think it is purposely complicated/obscured.

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