Absolute diarrhea of the mouth from our own Baltimore Sun

Vile Shadow · Apr 15, 2015

Z_Man said:
oh i know!!! people would be blowing themselves and neighbors up more in just improperly storing items than using them

That's why some parts of the NFA I can support, such as regarding explosives. I think folks should at least be certified in their storage and handling.

sxs · Apr 15, 2015

Why are we talking about the Baltimore Sun? Hell, I don't even use it to wrap crabs in anymore. Once upon a time, 20+ years ago, I would buy the Sunday paper just for the advertisements....now it's only good proper use is the bottom of a cats pan.

Vile Shadow · Apr 15, 2015

sxs said:
Why are we talking about the Baltimore Sun? Hell, I don't even use it to wrap crabs in anymore. Once upon a time, 20+ years ago, I would buy the Sunday paper just for the advertisements....now it's only good proper use is the bottom of a cats pan.

Can't have libtard ink tainting the taste of perfectly good crab meat.

Brooklyn · Apr 15, 2015

Chris0nllyn said:
I just wish people, on both sides, could have an honest debate.

The left plays the emotional angle, and the "you don't need that" angle.

The right plays the "it's our right, don't tell me what I need"

Bad and mentally unstable individuals should not have access to guns.
"Common sense" regulations are anything but common, nor do they make sense.
The NRA is a fundraising organization. Yes, they do help with training and safety, yes they're seemingly one of the only large profile groups supporting gun rights in DC, but you have to admit they want to sell guns. Pulling the 'ISIS' card during the convention is meant to scare people, and scared people buy guns. Scared people donate to the NRA. Scared people buy up M855 ammo when told it's going to be banned.

No, you shouldn't have a rocket launcher (though, it would be cool as hell), but I also shouldn't be told that "weapons made for war", that statistically account for very little actual crime are to be banned because "I don't need one". Concealed carriers are, again, statistically very safe people that are involved in a minute amount of crime. Don't play the emotional angle and act like this is the wild west, OK Corral shootout going on. Don't act like these madmen perpetrating mass killings are Tom, Dick, and Harry with a CCW permit.

The debate on guns in this country is founded on disingenuous arguments and "facts". Much like the debate on drugs (more specifically, marijuana).

It's up to each and every gun owner, CCW holder, teacher, NRA member, etc. to EDUCATE people. Don't sound like a freaking nut, and you won't be treated like one. Try not to get so butthurt about comments made by irrational people who obviously have very little understanding of gun laws, gun mechanics, and gun owners. That being said, this is America, the best country on earth, with a "law of the land" in place that allows you to think, and say pretty much anything you want, and I love that, no matter the person behind the mouth.

Sorry you sound like a nut..

Guess what.. The burden of proof is on those that want to restrict a right.

And we are done playing.

Vile Shadow · Apr 16, 2015

Brooklyn said:
The burden of proof is on those that want to restrict a right.

I can certainly agree with that. :thumbsup:

Chris0nllyn · Apr 16, 2015

Brooklyn said:
Guess what.. The burden of proof is on those that want to restrict a right.

How's that been working out for us so far?

Brooklyn · Apr 16, 2015

Chris0nllyn said:
How's that been working out for us so far?

Ask SAF.

Doctor_M · Apr 16, 2015

Gryphon said:
I keep most of mine in a safe, and keep them unloaded, in case they decide to shoot their way out. Oh, wait, I forgot, they can always load themselves anyway . . . Now I have to store ammo in a separate safe and hide the combination from the guns!

If a gun wanted to commit suicide, would it shoot itself or just jump off the back of your boat?

abean4187 · Apr 16, 2015

Really looking forward to when the 4th overturns MD’s AWB. I can already envision the Sun’s “Blood will run in the streets” report.

Z_Man · Apr 16, 2015

abean4187 said:
Really looking forward to when the 4th overturns MD’s AWB. I can already envision the Sun’s “Blood will run in the streets” report.

the only casualties are going to be all of our bank accounts as we are chomping on the bit to buy AK's and M1A's again...

rob · Apr 16, 2015

We have so lost our way in this country.

This country was founded on the principles of freedom property, and responsibility. Basically, you are supposed to be free to believe what you wish, own what you wish and do what you wish. It is your responsibility to not infringe on the freedom of other citizens. If you do, you are subject to redress.

If I want to own a B52 bomber and use it to attack ground hogs on my property, that's supposed to be fine as long as I don't infringe on the rights of others (gonna need a whole lot of land for that gun range!).

We have become subjects of a state that has co-opted pre-policing powers. You are not permitted to own 'X' because you might use it wrong and infringe on someone's rights.

Rob

Vile Shadow · Apr 16, 2015

abean4187 said:
Really looking forward to when the 4th overturns MD’s AWB. I can already envision the Sun’s “Blood will run in the streets” report.

I won't get my hopes up too high for that happening, but it's fun to imagine all the soccer moms having coronaries upon hearing that. :evilgrin3

MrNiceGuy · Apr 17, 2015

Z_Man said:
oh i know!!! people would be blowing themselves and neighbors up more in just improperly storing items than using them

And you'd still be 100x more likely to be struck by lightning.

"Weapons of war" are exactly what the Second Amendment envisioned since those are what are required in order to ensure the security of a free state. You can no more separate rocket launchers from semi-auto handguns than you can semi-auto handguns from knives.

The Second Amendment demands that the government not infringe upon a natural right. How that right should be exercised is matter of both situation and opinion. SCOTUS correctly stated in West Virginia Board of Education v Barnette (1943) that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in matters of opinion.

Mr Bear · Apr 17, 2015

Chris0nllyn said:
I just wish people, on both sides, could have an honest debate.

The left plays the emotional angle, and the "you don't need that" angle.

The right plays the "it's our right, don't tell me what I need"

Bad and mentally unstable individuals should not have access to guns.
"Common sense" regulations are anything but common, nor do they make sense.
The NRA is a fundraising organization. Yes, they do help with training and safety, yes they're seemingly one of the only large profile groups supporting gun rights in DC, but you have to admit they want to sell guns. Pulling the 'ISIS' card during the convention is meant to scare people, and scared people buy guns. Scared people donate to the NRA. Scared people buy up M855 ammo when told it's going to be banned.

No, you shouldn't have a rocket launcher (though, it would be cool as hell), but I also shouldn't be told that "weapons made for war", that statistically account for very little actual crime are to be banned because "I don't need one". Concealed carriers are, again, statistically very safe people that are involved in a minute amount of crime. Don't play the emotional angle and act like this is the wild west, OK Corral shootout going on. Don't act like these madmen perpetrating mass killings are Tom, Dick, and Harry with a CCW permit.

The debate on guns in this country is founded on disingenuous arguments and "facts". Much like the debate on drugs (more specifically, marijuana).

It's up to each and every gun owner, CCW holder, teacher, NRA member, etc. to EDUCATE people. Don't sound like a freaking nut, and you won't be treated like one. Try not to get so butthurt about comments made by irrational people who obviously have very little understanding of gun laws, gun mechanics, and gun owners. That being said, this is America, the best country on earth, with a "law of the land" in place that allows you to think, and say pretty much anything you want, and I love that, no matter the person behind the mouth.

You did good here. Nice job!

Pale Ryder · Apr 17, 2015

Sling Blade said:
Can't have libtard ink tainting the taste of perfectly good crab meat.

Or marring kitty's toilet.

Chris0nllyn · Apr 17, 2015

ground chuck said:
I like where you went with this, well said.

Mr Bear said:
You did good here. Nice job!

Thank you.

:beer:

Second Amendment · Apr 17, 2015

"It's irrational, it's crazy, yet it's the NRA agenda that hardly anybody, Democrat or Republican, wants to challenge on the national stage."

Agenda? How about a "right" under the 2A? No one challenges gun ownership on a national stage? My ass, the 2A gets pounded on a daily basis.

embermage · Apr 17, 2015

Chris0nllyn said:
No, you shouldn't have a rocket launcher (though, it would be cool as hell),

You absolutely can own a functional rocket launcher, mortar, cannon, tank with working main gun, recoiless rifle, etc. Just a bit more paperwork and time involved (and alot of money), and you can do those things. Some people even have fully functional hand grenades ($200 dollar tax stamp, form 1 for Destructive device filed with ATF, etc), but it can be done.

Streetgang · Apr 17, 2015

All my guns are handicapped. None of them will do anything without my help.
As a matter of fact, that's about to become my new sig line.

Vile Shadow · Apr 17, 2015

Second Amendment said:
"It's irrational, it's crazy, yet it's the NRA agenda that hardly anybody, Democrat or Republican, wants to challenge on the national stage."

Agenda? How about a "right" under the 2A? No one challenges gun ownership on a national stage? My ass, the 2A gets pounded on a daily basis.

Right. I guess the Federal AWB actually wasn't a national thing. :rolleyes:

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