So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

Boondock Saint · May 8, 2018

welder516 said:
For everyone saying don't vote Hogan , i do not see the logic . Not trying to be an ass but vote another way we are sure going to lose more rights , vote Hogan we have a little hope . I know not much , we are stuck between a rock and a hard place .

Fact #1 - I do not vote for gun grabbers.
Fact #2 - Hogan gleefully signed gun control measures this session.
Fact #3 - I will not vote for Hogan.

jrumann59 · May 8, 2018

danb said:
A buttress holds things together, or up, providing stability. A dam holds things (water) back. A buttress holds up a dam. Its more like Hogan is the dam holding the legislature of Mike and Mike back. And, dams do let some water overflow for safety.

Yes but it has as other definitions:

Look at #3

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buttress said:
Definition of buttress
1 architecture : a projecting structure of masonry or wood for supporting or giving stability to a wall or building

2: something that resembles a buttress: such as
a : a projecting part of a mountain or hill
b biology : a horny protuberance on a horse's hoof at the heel — see hoof illustration
c botany : the broadened base of a tree trunk or a thickened vertical part of it

3: something that supports or strengthens. a buttress of the cause of peace

SCV/SAR Patriot · May 8, 2018

jrumann59 said:
Yes but it has as other definitions:

Look at #3

Maybe we can just call Hogan a BUTTASS, most will agree with that!
:lol2:

TexDefender · May 8, 2018

Muleskinner said:
Those of you harping on about gerrymandering and redistricting,,,a few points

1) Maryland is close to 70% dem. Redistricting will not give a majority of Rs in the GA no matter how you slice it

2) The election in November will be prior to any redistricting so more than likely the dems will keep their super majority and will continue to have the power to override a veto

3) new districts will have no effect until the 2022 election, chances are damn good we will see another D in the governor's mansion with a smaller dem majority, but with a D governor it wont matter..

my point is voting for Hogan is an exercise in futility. Even if he had not throw us and our rights under the bus, not much is going to change. If you don't value your rights, by all means vote for Hogan...but don't expect anything to change for 2A supporters.

So how do we win?

welder516 · May 8, 2018

Boondock Saint said:
Fact #1 - I do not vote for gun grabbers.
Fact #2 - Hogan gleefully signed gun control measures this session.
Fact #3 - I will not vote for Hogan.

Not questioning your logic or reasoning , but what can be gained and what can be lost . Basically pros & cons ??

jrumann59 · May 8, 2018

TexDefender said:
So how do we win?

The group as whole is strong but politicians like Hogan are actually much more dangerous than O'Malley, to this group. The RINOs and Dems know they need to splinter the group whether it be along Fudd and regular gunowners, liberal and conservative, .40 and other much better calibers

. That is why Hogan is so reviled now most knew he was not going to do any favors but many though he would not do anything contrary to the group also. People's personal politics are as entrenched as Ford V Chevy or AR vs AK.

eruby · May 8, 2018

(and I still have serious doubts Hogan will win re-election)

welder516 · May 8, 2018

eruby said:
(and I still have serious doubts Hogan will win re-election)

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Who has the juice to win ?? if you think Hogan will not win ?

eruby · May 8, 2018

welder516 said:
Who has the juice to win ?? if you think Hogan will not win ?

Whatever Dem runs.

Dems HATE that there is an R in the Governor's mansion

thomfantomas · May 8, 2018

eruby said:
(and I still have serious doubts Hogan will win re-election)

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Well for almost 6 decades a Republican hasnt served a second term as Governor and after Him back stabbing us,I see him winning!

This is Maryland the odds are never in our favor.Coincidentally thats how it works in this God forbidden state

ironpony · May 8, 2018

Do bait and switch laws cover Governors?

Okletsfish · May 8, 2018

I have been working on my bride of 50 years to move but she knows nothing about politics and has been a losing battle for me for a very long time. Moving is the only answer because nothing will change in this socialist state.

danb · May 8, 2018

eruby said:
(and I still have serious doubts Hogan will win re-election)

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You didn't think Hogan would win the 1st time. I didn't think trump would win either. Predictions are hard, especially about the future.

If you withhold your support of Hogan, and he wins, it proves your irrelevant. If he loses, we get Madaleno or Kamenetz. If you think either is equivalent to Hogan you st
should stop sniffing glue. Withholding support is heads they win tails they lose strategy. I believe Hogan will take more risk and tilt to the right after 2018, because he can. They all do it.

Boondock Saint · May 8, 2018

danb said:
You didn't think Hogan would win the 1st time. I didn't think trump would win either. Predictions are hard, especially about the future.

If you withhold your support of Hogan, and he wins, it proves your irrelevant. If he loses, we get Madaleno or Kamenetz. If you think either is equivalent to Hogan you st
should stop sniffing glue. Withholding support is heads they win tails they lose strategy. I believe Hogan will take more risk and tilt to the right after 2018, because he can. They all do it.

The politics of fear strike again. Vote for ________ because ________ is the debbil.

danb · May 8, 2018

Boondock Saint said:
The politics of fear strike again. Vote for ________ because ________ is the debbil.

People who dont vote get ignored.

People who are persuadable get an audience.

All the emails and lobbying did have an impact, the original bills were way worse. Florida and Vermont got way worse bills, including a rifle ban for 18-20 year olds. What we got was pretty contained.

Vetted84 · May 8, 2018

danb said:
You didn't think Hogan would win the 1st time. I didn't think trump would win either. Predictions are hard, especially about the future.

If you withhold your support of Hogan, and he wins, it proves your irrelevant. If he loses, we get Madaleno or Kamenetz. If you think either is equivalent to Hogan you st
should stop sniffing glue. Withholding support is heads they win tails they lose strategy. I believe Hogan will take more risk and tilt to the right after 2018, because he can. They all do it.

I think if a miracle occurs and Hogan gets a second term, he will tilt further left. I believe he has higher aspirations and the only way he becomes a Senator or Congressman from Maryland is to aspire to be like Hoyer.

jrumann59 · May 8, 2018

danb said:
People who dont vote get ignored.

People who are persuadable get an audience.

All the emails and lobbying did have an impact, the original bills were way worse. Florida and Vermont got way worse bills, including a rifle ban for 18-20 year olds. What we got was pretty contained.

So Florida and Vermont got raped with a barb wire baseball bat, MD was just raped with a lubed baseball bat, raping of right is raping of a right no matter how "gentle" the raper was.

44man · May 8, 2018

Vetted84 said:
I think if a miracle occurs and Hogan gets a second term, he will tilt further left. I believe he has higher aspirations and the only way he becomes a Senator or Congressman from Maryland is to aspire to be like Hoyer.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!!

And it’s not the 2a community

Hogan won’t help us either way

44man · May 8, 2018

danb said:
A buttress holds things together, or up, providing stability. A dam holds things (water) back. A buttress holds up a dam. Its more like Hogan is the dam holding the legislature of Mike and Mike back. And, dams do let some water overflow for safety.

He’s not holding the mikes and the mga back, he asked for a bumpstock bill and 1302, they provided them and he signed it.

Hogan would be more like a sieve than a dam

Boondock Saint · May 8, 2018

danb said:
People who dont vote get ignored.

People who are persuadable get an audience.

All the emails and lobbying did have an impact, the original bills were way worse. Florida and Vermont got way worse bills, including a rifle ban for 18-20 year olds. What we got was pretty contained.

I was "persuadable" before and got bent over. Now I'm not persuadable. Either way, I was violated. I'm not voting for the guy that violated me. As stated upthread, rape is still rape.

If you want to vote for a grabber that bent you over with a smile on his face while posing with the clams that wrote the script on how exactly your violation would occur, that's your business.

Me? I'm very anti-rapist. I'm also very pro-2A. Rapists don't like 2A.

So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

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