Will the MD HQL license ever be axed?

Biggfoot44 · May 23, 2017

It's not about whether it is difficult obtain *for me* ( for the record it IS too hard to obtain for persons new to guns, particulary in urban areas ) , it is a matter of principle. * For me* , it has become my constitutional line in the sand .

Yes, I still purchase the occasional classic S&W , I purchased lifetime supply of late model stuff in summer of 2013 .

But the real issue is for younger people and those new to the gun. Luckily my about to be 21yo daughter inherited my affinity for S&W revolvers, and will recieve a 1950 2in M&P on her birthday.

Combloc · May 23, 2017

It will be replaced when they think up something even more oppressive.

Humdi · May 23, 2017

It better not!
I spent 3 days passing the TX hunter class, about $100 in fees and fingerprints and into my second week of staring at a "pending" status every day.
I'm gonna be pissed if it's taken out.
But by god, the range officer 1911 is a sexy gun!

knastera · May 24, 2017

My biggest problem with the HQL is that it makes people pay to exercise a constitutional right. Having said that, as an HQL instructor, I try to make the class as valuable as possible. My students get lots of hands-on work with several firearms and we spend a lot of time on safety and laws (with emphasis on legal transport and use). If they have to take it, I'm going to make it worth their while.

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Bob A · May 24, 2017

Mark75H said:
I would pay hundreds of dollars to see the look on Frosh's face if that happened

Pay it up front; donate to MSI.

knastera · May 24, 2017

Biggfoot44 said:
It's not about whether it is difficult obtain *for me* ( for the record it IS too hard to obtain for persons new to guns, particulary in urban areas ) , it is a matter of principle. * For me* , it has become my constitutional line in the sand .

I totally agree about the difficulty it adds to law abiding citizens living in urban areas that have lower incomes. There are plenty of decent handguns that can be purchased for a few hundred dollars. We are telling these folks, who simply want to protect themselves and their families, that to buy that first handgun, they have to shell out another $200 for an HQL before they can even consider a moderately priced gun, some range ammo, some defensive ammo, and range time. You would think that the libs would be all over that because it discriminates against those with lower income. If you think about it, the HQL is nothing different than the poll taxes that whites imposed on the newly freed black slaves to keep them from voting. The liberals are only liberal when it suits their agendas.

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Doobie · May 24, 2017

Change HQL to VQL(Voter qualification license) and see how fast its batted down. Oh wait, we've already seen it with voter ID requests :mad54:

Why isn't the same criteria being used for the HQL(poor inner city black folks don't have the money or transportation to get a HQL er ID).

Vetted84 · May 24, 2017

winch said:
I refuse to get an HQL thus I'm not buying any handguns.

I also refuse to get an HQL. The positive is I find it quite enjoyable to build from 80%.

knastera · May 24, 2017

Another way to avoid the HQL is to get a C&R. I have a Tokarev TT-C that was made in Romania in 1953. It shoots the powerful 7.62x25 cartridge that travels at 1,500+ FPS.

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HordesOfKailas · May 24, 2017

Humdi said:
It better not!
I spent 3 days passing the TX hunter class, about $100 in fees and fingerprints and into my second week of staring at a "pending" status every day.
I'm gonna be pissed if it's taken out.
But by god, the range officer 1911 is a sexy gun!

I hope that's sarcasm.

44man · May 24, 2017

The only way I see it going away is by getting rid of Mike and Mike and frost and a hell of a terrorist attack innocent with lots of tv beheadings with hours of jihad speeches as they lip off heads of moco politicians, then maybe the central md loons will see the light, but even then I doubt it.

esqappellate · May 24, 2017

Bob A said:
Pay it up front; donate to MSI.

This ^^. And join. Simple membership in MSI is $25 a year. About the price of a box of 9mm ammo. The HQL suit cost $50,000 up front, just to get started. It will cost more over time. A lot more. And get active, if only to take an anti to the range. Above all else, vote. Vote in the primaries, and in the general elections. Elections are decided on the margins, sometimes the narrowest of margins. Communicate with your representatives, including the ones who you know are antis, if only to make your voice heard. And urge others who are sympathic to the principle of self defense as a civil right to do so as well. DO SOMETHING!

HankR · May 24, 2017

knastera said:
You would think that the libs would be all over that because it discriminates against those with lower income. If you think about it, the HQL is nothing different than the poll taxes that whites imposed on the newly freed black slaves to keep them from voting. The liberals are only liberal when it suits their agendas.

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But it makes it that much easier to control the next generation. Much has been said about how white we look in MSI and HRBP hearings, but looking at the most recent I was struck with how old we look. Sure, some members bring along kids (and that's great), but the state is making it very difficult to instill a love of freedom and a respect for guns in the next gen. They're playing the long game-pissing us off in the short term is just a bonus.

Uncle Duke · May 24, 2017

HankR said:
But it makes it that much easier to control the next generation. Much has been said about how white we look in MSI and HRBP hearings, but looking at the most recent I was struck with how old we look. Sure, some members bring along kids (and that's great), but the state is making it very difficult to instill a love of freedom and a respect for guns in the next gen. They're playing the long game-pissing us off in the short term is just a bonus.

BINGO!

foxtrapper · May 24, 2017

"...old Jim Crow law..."

Yep, that's what it is. The last Jim Crow laws to go deal with guns, and they don't get it. I see everyday some lib politician or press lackey going on about civil rights, racism, the 1A, adhering to the constitution, etc, but they seem to never connect the dots. But guns are bad, mkaaay. They are stuck in the militia clause and muskets.

Biggfoot44 · May 25, 2017

Not just last remaining, but still being freshly created.

chipd · May 25, 2017

Winch, I hope you realize that your attitude is exactly what the lawmakers hoped would happen. you're caving into the gun prohibitionists. you're letting them win.

pcfixer · May 25, 2017

esqappellate said:
This ^^. And join. Simple membership in MSI is $25 a year. About the price of a box of 9mm ammo. The HQL suit cost $50,000 up front, just to get started. It will cost more over time. A lot more. And get active, if only to take an anti to the range. Above all else, vote. Vote in the primaries, and in the general elections. Elections are decided on the margins, sometimes the narrowest of margins. Communicate with your representatives, including the ones who you know are antis, if only to make your voice heard. And urge others who are sympathic to the principle of self defense as a civil right to do so as well. DO SOMETHING!

I have been doing something, including going to see my senator Ron Young.

esqappellate · May 26, 2017

pcfixer said:
I have been doing something, including going to see my senator Ron Young.

Your good senator is one of the worse antis in the Senate.

20ravens52 · May 26, 2017

Humdi said:
It better not!
I spent 3 days passing the TX hunter class, about $100 in fees and fingerprints and into my second week of staring at a "pending" status every day.
I'm gonna be pissed if it's taken out.
But by god, the range officer 1911 is a sexy gun!

The stupid requirement is preventing me from actually going through with the purchase of my second handgun.

And strangely, the Springfield Range Officer/Colt Series 70 are the ones I'm interested in.

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