kalister1
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Don't forget, this is the Minimum required by law. You can Rifle hunt with a
.223 in Maryland, but I don't know anybody that does.
.223 in Maryland, but I don't know anybody that does.
.45 Blackpowder Revolver That uses 60+ Grs. Of Powder ?
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I use 90gr Pyrodex behind a modern minnie in both my rifle and pistol. Ask Dan at MG about the pistol.
My hunting load is 40 grains of 777 behind a 200 gn Lee conical bullet in my 1860 Pietta. I have a high front sight and have it zero'd for 35 yards.
This load works well on deer but I wouldn't recommend making it a constant diet.
This load works well on deer but I wouldn't recommend making it a constant diet.
My hunting load is 40 grains of 777 behind a 200 gn Lee conical bullet in my 1860 Pietta. I have a high front sight and have it zero'd for 35 yards.
This load works well on deer but I wouldn't recommend making it a constant diet.
That is something I personally would just never consider using. 35 yards isn't really much and as long as you punch a hole in the right spot I have no issues with it, but, I just can't get past the low 40 grain power weight.
I haven't chronographed the load yet but, from the feel of it, it is pretty stout. Remember, this is 777 not BP and the barrel length is 8 inches.
Jim Sr
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Muzzleloadinghandguns(bothsingleshot
and revolvers) may be used to hunt deer
in all counties. Muzzleloading handguns
used for deer and bear hunting must be at
least .40 caliber in size with a barrel length
of at least 6 inches and use not less than 40 grains of black powder (or a black powder equivalent)
Col. 3, page 17
and revolvers) may be used to hunt deer
in all counties. Muzzleloading handguns
used for deer and bear hunting must be at
least .40 caliber in size with a barrel length
of at least 6 inches and use not less than 40 grains of black powder (or a black powder equivalent)
Col. 3, page 17
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Yup, The Walker will do it. I have an Uberti repro, it is a lot of fun to shoot, being the pistol weighs 4.5lbs and is just a bit less powerful than a 357mag(148gr .454 ball around 1200fps) recoil is very mild. It is loud, and throws a TON of smoke. They were "horse pistols", designed for cavalry in a role similar to a carbine, the sights were set for 100 yards, so they shoot high, when shooting near full power the loading arm can drop being there is only a little spring clip holding it up, and the wedge can get crushed. I shoot blanks(60gr under wad in 1 chamber only) at new years or July 4th with it, and a lot of round balls over a wad and 50gr of FFFg at the range, but have had really good luck with .452 200gr conicals over 40gr.
I'd be real curious to know. My Optima pistol has a 14" barrel and do a 255 grain cast bullet in .45 cal sabot with 60 grains of Pyrodex RS. I'm really curious about that too, but, I don't know anyone who owns a chronograph. I had a Pine log section, about 4" diameter behind my target during one shooting trip trying to recover a bullet for inspection, my bullet trap just tears the lead up, but, that 255 grain bullet was passing through the Pine log at 50 yards and I never could recover a bullet that way, so, I don't know what the scientific ballistics or over-thinking math is, but, I know it has to be scootin' along pretty fast. I'm just trying to compare 40 grains to 60 grains from experience with my .32 cal and my pistol and 40 grains just doesn't seem like much.
Like I said, I have never owned, or had any interest in a blackpowder revolver, but I have looked at them and almost bought, a few times, but, that larger pistol has to be fun to shoot. I'm just not in to general target shooting and I guess that has a lot to do with my questions and reasons why I have never bought one. I'm basically of the mind-set that if I'm not going to hunt with it, it really doesn't serve me any purpose. I just can't grasp the concept of a gun that only shoots 40 grains of powder would be of any value for hunting a Deer. I don't hunt with any "high-powered" rifles and I consider a .50 cal Muzzleloader nothing better than a 12 or 20 gauge slug gun, but, a pistol at 40 grains of powder versus a pistol at 100 grains of powder is almost like comparing a BB gun to a 20 gauge slug to me. I just do not understand the 40 grain allowance for Deer hunting.
thats a dragoon man! back in the day, you were considered a woman if you couldnt draw and shoot with any speed! i wish i had the money for an original.
There's no understanding the regs on the fpe regulations. It's legacy rules crossed with updates by people who don't understand the numbers.
My FIL has argued that case with DNR rangers and admins for years without satisfactory answers aside from coming to understand that they don't understand.
My FIL has argued that case with DNR rangers and admins for years without satisfactory answers aside from coming to understand that they don't understand.
My hunting load is 40 grains of 777 behind a 200 gn Lee conical bullet in my 1860 Pietta. I have a high front sight and have it zero'd for 35 yards.
This load works well on deer but I wouldn't recommend making it a constant diet.
This is what I've been considering all year. Asked a hunting instructor about it and he said only maybe 2 people have ever asked about this and he had no idea on effectiveness.
It's the same issue we had when trying to pass new regs to allow us to hunt with modern handguns here. The ballistics are more than allowing for Deer hunting, but, the idiots who make the laws or write the books either simply don't care or are obviously afraid of any conversation where the words, Firearms or Gun is used. The Charles County Commissioners are an excellent example of both theories. When that lady Candice Kelly told HvyMax "Good luck with that" I sort of knew the whole idea was falling on deaf ears. They didn't even want to discuss the matter beyond 1 oe 2 stupid non-hunter questions. I'm sorry I missed that meeting. I was out of town and didn't a thing about it until the night of the meeting when I got a phone call about it. I was like Gee Thanks for the notice.
You are not going to tell me that Modern Handgun is less effective than a 40 grain powered blackpowder pistol. I'll laugh at you. I can't debate the use of a Muzzleloader Rifle with a saboted bullet compared to a .270 or a 30-06 Rifle. That's just a whole different ballgame ( even though some guys will swear they are of identical characteristics )
However, when I read the thing about a 40 grain Muzzleloader Revolver, I busted up laughing like, What idiot said that was ok ? I don't understand why they even have that information listed under handguns when it technically should be under the Muzzleloader section. I can understand the Blackpowder revolver being there since that is not a "muzzleloader", but, what threw me completely off was never noticing the use of Blackpowder pistol and Blackpowder revolver in the same sentence / section. Technically they are two different guns unless you use the word Muzzleloader, like is used in the Muzzleloader section. It is a tricky situation.
That's what concerned me. When using my .32 cal muzzleloader with30 grains of powder for Squirrel hunting. I would never consider shooting a Deer with only 40 grains. 30 grains and 40 grains are not much different when you pull the trigger. 40 grains of powder and a 200 grain bullet you'd have to be right on that Deer. I can see this in a Deer stand hunting or ground blind situation, but, man that Deer would have to be 100% broadside and right on me before I ever pulled the trigger. I don't think I could even do it.
People say that about alot of guns but at the same time, you wouldnt want to stand in front of it to test it out would you? Native americans killed deer with bows and arrows made from sticks and stone with alot less kinetic energy than a lead ball, buffalo even!
LOL yeah I understand what you're saying, but, a Deer has 10 times more stamina than a human and a human knows it's gonna sting a little, however, given the fact that so many men back in the 1800's walked around with multiple bullets in them and could walk around showing off their bullet wounds is not a good example for debate. It simply tells us that the current argument over using a 40 grain pistol is probably not a good option. Fortunately, unlike the 1800's the Deer doesn't have the ability, and plenty of time, to shoot back at your ass.
LMAO you know most of them guys back then died from lead poisoning and not the wound itself.
As far Indians and Deer... tell that to the guys who swear they need a $1200.00 Mathews bow.
Buffalo doesn't count because how many arrows did the Indian have to stick in that beast before it finally dropped. One ain't gonna do it. The Bison never died from the arrows to the vitals. It simply had to finally bleed to death. There were millions of Buffalo around during the bow and arrow days. Just remember what happened when the Sharp's came in to the picture.
buy me one to try out and i will pay you back for it.
buy me one to try out and i will pay you back for it.
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