Making a musket whole
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Yeah... That is why I am asking.
This is the origin for more complete information on a correct decision.
http://www.militaryheritage.com/pistol1.htm
Edit: (on their page)
Non-Firing State
We sell historically accurate muskets in a non-firing state. A certified gunsmith may alter these pistols to a firing state by drilling the vent hole and test firing it. PLEASE NOTE: Pistols are considered restricted weapons in Canada and in a number of other countries. Please consult with local authorities before making or converting any replica pistol into a firing state. We are not legally responsible for any alteration from its present state, nor any infractions of the law by the owner.
This is the origin for more complete information on a correct decision.
http://www.militaryheritage.com/pistol1.htm
Edit: (on their page)
Non-Firing State
We sell historically accurate muskets in a non-firing state. A certified gunsmith may alter these pistols to a firing state by drilling the vent hole and test firing it. PLEASE NOTE: Pistols are considered restricted weapons in Canada and in a number of other countries. Please consult with local authorities before making or converting any replica pistol into a firing state. We are not legally responsible for any alteration from its present state, nor any infractions of the law by the owner.
Mooseman
R.I.P.- Hooligan #4
No guts, no glory.
pm inigoes believe he had one bp rifle that he had drilled by gunsmith to fully function.
or i can lend you a drill..
j/k
The 'test fire' part is what catches my attention. The barrel has not been proofed! They come with 'historic proofing markings'.
Drill a hole, put it in a vice, and pull the trigger with a string. Repeat. Many times. Take all advice at your own risk.
There are some black powder guns made in India that come with no hole drilled for importation purposes. When you buy them the drill bit is included. I nearly bought one until I read more and learned that quality varies and there is no proofing done. You may get a working gun or a working pipe bomb depending on that day's production run. I didn't roll those dice.
Drill a hole, put it in a vice, and pull the trigger with a string. Repeat. Many times. Take all advice at your own risk.
There are some black powder guns made in India that come with no hole drilled for importation purposes. When you buy them the drill bit is included. I nearly bought one until I read more and learned that quality varies and there is no proofing done. You may get a working gun or a working pipe bomb depending on that day's production run. I didn't roll those dice.
Huh, maybe the cyanide was already a part of the metal to begin with.
maybe.. lets find out..
hey op.. can you lick the barrel and tell us..
Sure thing. Best deal is I accept personal responsibility for licking the barrel. I will not blame you at all for honoring your request. If I die of cyanide poisoning a few weeks from now I wont blame you.
I apologize for the crappy pic, but gimme a break I was licking a gun and taking a pic over my shoulder. See I try to please.
Sure thing. Best deal is I accept personal responsibility for licking the barrel. I will not blame you at all for honoring your request. If I die of cyanide poisoning a few weeks from now I wont blame you.
I apologize for the crappy pic, but gimme a break I was licking a gun and taking a pic over my shoulder. See I try to please.
rj1974
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oupa
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- Apr 6, 2011
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I have a one-off flintlock made by a guy who used to work at a certain military depot. The frizzen is faced with a thin sheet of "something" that sparks fabulously but I was told will show radioactivity on detection instruments.
If you find a smith who can/will do the work, he is capable of determining if the gun is worthy of it. That is to say SAFE. Get it checked professionally before agreeing to any work to make it functional.
IF the barrel is worthy, the mod is simple. If the barrel is not actual gun barrel material, making it functional AND trying to shoot it could have the same result as holding an exploding grenade.
oupa
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- Apr 6, 2011
- 859
BTW since others have referred to "proof" I thought a little background info on it may be in order.
In virtually every other arms producing country on earth there is a government "proof house" that determines / warranty's that guns and ammo sold in that country meet safety standards. In Europe the standards are (for the most part) recognized from country to country under the CIL standards. In The States it's SAAMI that sets the standards not the government! SAAMI stands for Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute. It is a private group funded (as the name implies) by the manufacturers themselves. It is mandatory to be a member if you want to do business. SAAMI & CIL specs are not necessarily the same but they are close enough to be interchangeable.
ANYWAY... "proofing" a barrel is done by actually firing it with an over-pressure load. The generally accepted standard is three shots @ 3X normal pressure. These three pressure test loads (sometimes inaccurately referred to as "blue pills") are usually fired in conjunction with several regular rounds but the effect is to make sure the barrel withstands the punishment. Oh and just to reinforce the folly of excessively lubricating a gun bore, some proof houses use "oiled cartridges" of standard manufacture to replicate the "over-pressure" effects.
The barrel (or gun) is meticulously measured before the first shot and then re-measured after the tests to determine it's status.
Here's a link that should be of interest, detailing one man's visit and experiences with the london Proof House.
In virtually every other arms producing country on earth there is a government "proof house" that determines / warranty's that guns and ammo sold in that country meet safety standards. In Europe the standards are (for the most part) recognized from country to country under the CIL standards. In The States it's SAAMI that sets the standards not the government! SAAMI stands for Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute. It is a private group funded (as the name implies) by the manufacturers themselves. It is mandatory to be a member if you want to do business. SAAMI & CIL specs are not necessarily the same but they are close enough to be interchangeable.
ANYWAY... "proofing" a barrel is done by actually firing it with an over-pressure load. The generally accepted standard is three shots @ 3X normal pressure. These three pressure test loads (sometimes inaccurately referred to as "blue pills") are usually fired in conjunction with several regular rounds but the effect is to make sure the barrel withstands the punishment. Oh and just to reinforce the folly of excessively lubricating a gun bore, some proof houses use "oiled cartridges" of standard manufacture to replicate the "over-pressure" effects.
The barrel (or gun) is meticulously measured before the first shot and then re-measured after the tests to determine it's status.
Here's a link that should be of interest, detailing one man's visit and experiences with the london Proof House.
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