Tips for first ar build

dentman217 · Mar 20, 2013

I am building my first AR i am cosidering a few things. Anyone with experiance please respond.

Already purchased:
Engage duex lower (when recieve it)
Palmetto lowr build kit
BCM midddy upper with MOE handguard less bcg and carging handle

1st anti rotation pins yes or no and what brand

2nd am considering Joe Bobs NiB BCG(first choiceunless convinced by your input) spikes or other brand standard or NiB BCG
and is the bcm charging handle worth the extra $

3rd any recomendations for longevity due to the direction the state is going as well federal hypocrites. ie anti rotation pins tips dos or donts based on your experiance

5cary · Mar 20, 2013

Looks decent.

On the BCG, if you are getting a BCM upper, just stick with the BCM BCG. You won't find one better made, and you can save extra cash on:

1. Training
2. Ammo
3. Training

As far as anti rotation pins. I just don't get those. At all. It's a solution without a problem.

dentman217 · Mar 20, 2013

thanks

Thank you for response the upper does not include BCG should i get Joe Bobs at 70 bucks less than bcm or stick with bcm and is NiB worth the extra $

BeltBuckle · Mar 20, 2013

can't do better than to start here: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=23086

JoeBob's BCG's are excellent, btw. Not to mention the kickass customer service. Ask me how I know :innocent0

Firespectrum · Mar 20, 2013

I've built 6 ARs, all but two from PSA stripped lowers. If you can get them, their "blemished" lowers are a fantastic value. I couldn't find the blemish on the two I've had.

If you don't have a lot of tools, the CMMG LPK has pins that go in really easy, which is the most frustrating part. I find a jeweler's hammer with one brass end and one hard plastic end is very useful if you're trying to do it without scratching the finish. Use painter's tape around where the pin you're installing because you WILL slip and knick the receiver at some point. An appropriate sized punch will also be needed. I don't know what the sizes are, I just bought a set.

BCG is your preference. Any mil-spec phosphate BCG from a reputable place is good enough for me, but if you've got money to blow on the good stuff more power to ya. Personally, I don't think right now is the time to be paying for a name unless it's all you can find.

Anti-rotation pins smell like snake oil to me. I've never used them and never heard of anyone who's had that problem. They're probably just capitalizing on the "AR-15s are completely unreliable" myth. If you need the warm and fuzzy feeling, I would just have a whole set of spares lying around.

Firespectrum · Mar 20, 2013

BeltBuckle said:
can't do better than to start here: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=23086

Now that's what I call a thread! Wish I had seen that 5 years ago.

bmodzelewski · Mar 20, 2013

im in the same boat as you are:

engage lower
psa build kit

except im thinking about this upper from psa... also w/o a BCG & charging handle
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/moe-m4-madness-black-16-cmv-chrome-lined-stripped-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html

i'll keep an eye on this thread to learn a few more things along the way.

5cary · Mar 20, 2013

dentman217 said:
Thank you for response the upper does not include BCG should i get Joe Bobs at 70 bucks less than bcm or stick with bcm and is NiB worth the extra $

I went to Joe bobs and did not see their BCG. Are you referring to the Spikes, JP or WMD they're selling? If it's well made, then save the $70 and go with it. There are lots of good BCG's out there. I just assumed your upper would come with one. Things to look for: properly staked gas key and an HP/MP tested bolt. Other than that, don't get hung up on it.

I'm not of fan of NiB either. I've been shooting ARs for (jeez) almost 30 years now, and I've never felt (or seen) the need. They *might* be an improvement, but not one I feel the need to pay for.

Firespectrum · Mar 20, 2013

Some food for thought on the NiB coolsauce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flju7NvWJ3c

dentman217 · Mar 20, 2013

thanks for the help in response to the psa i was about to jump but at 450 i got the bcm i know its just a name but so many high regards to the quality and at 50 dollars more than psa it was a no brainer for me and even with the chaos it came in three days.
again I must say this site is very helpful thanks for all the advice

dentman217 · Mar 20, 2013

I was referring to the one joe bobs is offering to md shooter members this is of course after the 50 posts.

5cary · Mar 20, 2013

5cary said:
I went to Joe bobs and did not see their BCG. Are you referring to the Spikes, JP or WMD they're selling?

Never mind. I found it here. It looks good to go. If you use the specs on this as a benchmark, you'll be fine.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=109340

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